EVO GT700?? Anyone have this
#61
09-02-2004 | 06:12 PM
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As an amused bystander in this rediculous conflict, could someone please pull the plug on this Matt guy. Hey Matt... get a life. You are an idiot...Go away. No one likes you... Stick to go carts and shut up!
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09-02-2004 | 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by Matt Fresh
I have a video on my comp of a Negaro Blue S4 running an 11.65-11.7 runs. Is this the same guy, Mike? That is one fast as hell S4... hope the tranny holds up. i blew my A4 tranny running just over 300hp.
I have a video on my comp of a Negaro Blue S4 running an 11.65-11.7 runs. Is this the same guy, Mike? That is one fast as hell S4... hope the tranny holds up. i blew my A4 tranny running just over 300hp.
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09-03-2004 | 12:28 AM
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Originally posted by xico
Matt , who is bull****ting who here. If your car has an FVD ECU , and k16 turbos , you are not even close to 500Hp , I had their bigger turbos and their best ECU in my car and it dynoed 430HP only . Now i have the GT700 from EVO and iam over 600RWHP. If you are ever in Florida we will prove it to you at the Champion Motorsports dyno.
Matt , who is bull****ting who here. If your car has an FVD ECU , and k16 turbos , you are not even close to 500Hp , I had their bigger turbos and their best ECU in my car and it dynoed 430HP only . Now i have the GT700 from EVO and iam over 600RWHP. If you are ever in Florida we will prove it to you at the Champion Motorsports dyno.
You were just as pissed at EVO last week as you were at us, but the difference is, you allowed EVO to fix it, but did not give us a chance. Also...do you realize you recieved your parts from us at cost because you were such a good customer?? You then recieved a full refund after OVER a year of running around with the kit... So what are you upset about?? We did things for you no other company would have done and you should be greatful. If it were up to me...you would not have gotten **** esp. after the way you have been talking about us.
I am glad you are happy with your new setup, but please keep your mouth shut about things you don't know about.
Evan
PS-Please note I have nothing against Todd or anyother GIAC dealer, this is purely toward Xico.
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09-03-2004 | 12:28 AM
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I'll enter here with a naive viewpoint wrt top speeds...
I'll state up front that I'm not familiar with the shootouts discussed here. I plead ignorance.
Top speed is a function of power and aerodynamic drag. I wonder how much of Ruf's top speed prowess is due to his (at least historical) use of narrow bodied Porsches? The turbo body is gorgeous to look at but generates quite a bit more drag (I seem to remember that drag increases by a factor of four as speed increases? And that drag is derived from an equation that includes Cd as well as frontal area?). I also wonder how many of these tuners are setting their aerodynamic systems for minimal drag vs. downforce?
Apologies if this is out of left field...
And now, back to the show
I'll state up front that I'm not familiar with the shootouts discussed here. I plead ignorance.
Top speed is a function of power and aerodynamic drag. I wonder how much of Ruf's top speed prowess is due to his (at least historical) use of narrow bodied Porsches? The turbo body is gorgeous to look at but generates quite a bit more drag (I seem to remember that drag increases by a factor of four as speed increases? And that drag is derived from an equation that includes Cd as well as frontal area?). I also wonder how many of these tuners are setting their aerodynamic systems for minimal drag vs. downforce?
Apologies if this is out of left field...
And now, back to the show
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09-03-2004 | 12:35 AM
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Originally posted by xico
Matt , who is bull****ting who here. If your car has an FVD ECU , and k16 turbos , you are not even close to 500Hp , I had their bigger turbos and their best ECU in my car and it dynoed 430HP only . Now i have the GT700 from EVO and iam over 600RWHP. If you are ever in Florida we will prove it to you at the Champion Motorsports dyno.
Matt , who is bull****ting who here. If your car has an FVD ECU , and k16 turbos , you are not even close to 500Hp , I had their bigger turbos and their best ECU in my car and it dynoed 430HP only . Now i have the GT700 from EVO and iam over 600RWHP. If you are ever in Florida we will prove it to you at the Champion Motorsports dyno.
wasn't it determined that your car had major leaks though?
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09-03-2004 | 12:41 AM
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IS THIS GUY SERIOUS???
Are you saying I am bull****ting? Are you saying I made the numbers up?? Do you know me??
Matt, You do realize the most powerful car will not necessarily win a shootout. You do realize tires, suspension set up, and weight make all the difference ... even for just a 1/4 mile run?
Making allegations about things like this (creating a false dyno) is no joking matter. If you have some proof then lets see it. I'll be the first one to blow the **** up. If you are just parroting what your local tuner has told you and have no real knowledge yourself ... be very careful. The comments you make in public on an internet forum are permanent and can't be taken back. I suggest you get evidence and post it before you start spewing ****.
Don't be scared to go down and pay EVO a visit, Todd is a big guy but I am sure he wont hurt you.
Are you saying I am bull****ting? Are you saying I made the numbers up?? Do you know me??
Matt, You do realize the most powerful car will not necessarily win a shootout. You do realize tires, suspension set up, and weight make all the difference ... even for just a 1/4 mile run?
Making allegations about things like this (creating a false dyno) is no joking matter. If you have some proof then lets see it. I'll be the first one to blow the **** up. If you are just parroting what your local tuner has told you and have no real knowledge yourself ... be very careful. The comments you make in public on an internet forum are permanent and can't be taken back. I suggest you get evidence and post it before you start spewing ****.
Don't be scared to go down and pay EVO a visit, Todd is a big guy but I am sure he wont hurt you.
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09-03-2004 | 12:51 AM
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Originally posted by Soon2be993tt
wasn't it determined that your car had major leaks though?
wasn't it determined that your car had major leaks though?
Xico is extremely inconsiderate...its bad enough we gave him parts for cost, but then we gave him a full refund after about a year which caused us to actually lose money. Most people would be greatful for this customer service, but NOOOOOO Xico goes around bashing FVD like we screwed him over...
Every part Xico puts on his car makes him the fastest, untill he dyno's or races someone and realizes his car really isn't fast. When he had our kit he claimed GIAC was **** and FVD was the ****. Now he has GIAC and says the exact opposite. When he had our exhaust he loved it and said other exhausts were ****. He then got Tubi and said our exhaust was ****. He then dynoed Tubi and it lost power (as I told him before he got it) and now got a Pheonix and says Tubi is ****.
Make up your mind Xico...
Evan
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#72
09-03-2004 | 01:48 AM
First of all I would like to say that EVO has always been a pleasure to deak with and Todd is an awesome guy who knows his ****!!
This thread has gone way off track. All I wanted was some simple feedback and the only individual who gave that to me was 'No Mercy' "Thanks Bud".....
I can not wait until this shootout happens...Too bad the Speed Channel wouldn't air it live ...
This thread has gone way off track. All I wanted was some simple feedback and the only individual who gave that to me was 'No Mercy' "Thanks Bud".....
I can not wait until this shootout happens...Too bad the Speed Channel wouldn't air it live
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09-03-2004 | 02:03 AM
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Wow, you guys are really taking what I said personally...
I am just another Porsche enthusiast like yourselves, and I am sure we would all get along if we hang out together, so there is no need to call names and start getting personal. I am just remarking based on what I have seen, and I happen to deal with people who have been tuning and racing Porsche for nearly 20 years, so I trust their opinion.
I am not being immature, I am just challenging something that I think might be BS. If EvoMS is making cars with 750 HP, and I watch them go on a dyno and prove it in front of my face, then I will be the first to tip my hat to Todd. From what I have seen so far, I dont think it can happen with bolt ons alone - AND YES, the GT750 kit is bolt ons, I know people who are using superior products and are only making 650 flywheel HP on 100 octane. These results HAVE been dynoed independently.
Anyway, no hard feelings, happy tuning, and may the best car win at the shootout. I am not here trying to start a personal war, I am just getting a little rivalry going. Those of you who feel the need to get personal and attack me, you are immature, and obviously have nothing better to contribute to the arguement except personal attacks.
I am just another Porsche enthusiast like yourselves, and I am sure we would all get along if we hang out together, so there is no need to call names and start getting personal. I am just remarking based on what I have seen, and I happen to deal with people who have been tuning and racing Porsche for nearly 20 years, so I trust their opinion.
I am not being immature, I am just challenging something that I think might be BS. If EvoMS is making cars with 750 HP, and I watch them go on a dyno and prove it in front of my face, then I will be the first to tip my hat to Todd. From what I have seen so far, I dont think it can happen with bolt ons alone - AND YES, the GT750 kit is bolt ons, I know people who are using superior products and are only making 650 flywheel HP on 100 octane. These results HAVE been dynoed independently.
Anyway, no hard feelings, happy tuning, and may the best car win at the shootout. I am not here trying to start a personal war, I am just getting a little rivalry going. Those of you who feel the need to get personal and attack me, you are immature, and obviously have nothing better to contribute to the arguement except personal attacks.
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09-03-2004 | 02:06 AM
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Originally posted by NoMercy
IS THIS GUY SERIOUS???
Are you saying I am bull****ting? Are you saying I made the numbers up?? Do you know me??
Matt, You do realize the most powerful car will not necessarily win a shootout. You do realize tires, suspension set up, and weight make all the difference ... even for just a 1/4 mile run?
Making allegations about things like this (creating a false dyno) is no joking matter. If you have some proof then lets see it. I'll be the first one to blow the **** up. If you are just parroting what your local tuner has told you and have no real knowledge yourself ... be very careful. The comments you make in public on an internet forum are permanent and can't be taken back. I suggest you get evidence and post it before you start spewing ****.
Don't be scared to go down and pay EVO a visit, Todd is a big guy but I am sure he wont hurt you.
IS THIS GUY SERIOUS???
Are you saying I am bull****ting? Are you saying I made the numbers up?? Do you know me??
Matt, You do realize the most powerful car will not necessarily win a shootout. You do realize tires, suspension set up, and weight make all the difference ... even for just a 1/4 mile run?
Making allegations about things like this (creating a false dyno) is no joking matter. If you have some proof then lets see it. I'll be the first one to blow the **** up. If you are just parroting what your local tuner has told you and have no real knowledge yourself ... be very careful. The comments you make in public on an internet forum are permanent and can't be taken back. I suggest you get evidence and post it before you start spewing ****.
Don't be scared to go down and pay EVO a visit, Todd is a big guy but I am sure he wont hurt you.
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09-03-2004 | 02:09 AM
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Originally posted by Crash
I have no idea who brainwashed you this way, but if you have their number, please share it with us, my GF could use a good brainwashing. First of all, if you actually bothered to check the EVO MS webpage, youﾃつｴd see that the GT800 package doesnﾃつｴt consist of bolt-ons alone, but includes extensive engine work. Second of all, the 996TT has relatively short gear ratios, so without extending the redline the top speed cannot be increased. The Ruf RTurbo with the Nardo engine has had its 6th gear replaced for a lower-ratio gear, which allows it to achieve its top speed. Same goes for other tuners such as Techart and 9ff, btw, 9ff also increase the redline. You can ***** all you want about 700-800 HP not being possible with bolt-ons, but look at the shootout results. Buddygﾃつｴs car, with the now antiquated Stage 5, making a tad over 700 HP achieved a trap speed of 132 mph. Thatﾃつｴs win a car that weighs in at 3500 lbs. The Enzo, weighing in at less than 3000 lbs, with 600 HP has the same 132 mph trap speed. Now tell me, are Ferrai bull****ting everyone about the Enzoﾃつｴs HP too? Itﾃつｴs okay to disagree, but blatantly attacking EVO because you believe something isnﾃつｴt true, your only evidence of that being "commin sense" (whateverﾃつｴs left of it
) is just unacceptable behavior. Besides, the highly respected and qualified tuner which does the work on your car doesnﾃつｴt seem to have the best reputation of this board when it comes to performance mods. Focus on the possibilities, not the limitations. Had it not been for this mindset, you wouldnﾃつｴt be driving a Porsche today.
I have no idea who brainwashed you this way, but if you have their number, please share it with us, my GF could use a good brainwashing. First of all, if you actually bothered to check the EVO MS webpage, youﾃつｴd see that the GT800 package doesnﾃつｴt consist of bolt-ons alone, but includes extensive engine work. Second of all, the 996TT has relatively short gear ratios, so without extending the redline the top speed cannot be increased. The Ruf RTurbo with the Nardo engine has had its 6th gear replaced for a lower-ratio gear, which allows it to achieve its top speed. Same goes for other tuners such as Techart and 9ff, btw, 9ff also increase the redline. You can ***** all you want about 700-800 HP not being possible with bolt-ons, but look at the shootout results. Buddygﾃつｴs car, with the now antiquated Stage 5, making a tad over 700 HP achieved a trap speed of 132 mph. Thatﾃつｴs win a car that weighs in at 3500 lbs. The Enzo, weighing in at less than 3000 lbs, with 600 HP has the same 132 mph trap speed. Now tell me, are Ferrai bull****ting everyone about the Enzoﾃつｴs HP too? Itﾃつｴs okay to disagree, but blatantly attacking EVO because you believe something isnﾃつｴt true, your only evidence of that being "commin sense" (whateverﾃつｴs left of it
) is just unacceptable behavior. Besides, the highly respected and qualified tuner which does the work on your car doesnﾃつｴt seem to have the best reputation of this board when it comes to performance mods. Focus on the possibilities, not the limitations. Had it not been for this mindset, you wouldnﾃつｴt be driving a Porsche today.