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clutch losing pressure ?

When car sits for a couple of days pedal engages very low (like loss of pressure ) after driven for a while pedal comes back up.
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bad accumulator?
 
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Agree with accumulator, how about slave cylinder? Is this a OEM clutch?

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Agree with accumulator, how about slave cylinder? Is this a OEM clutch?
Yes OEM clutch.
Accumulator sounds right and I'm going to change it .What would be symptom of a bad slave?

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Originally Posted by Turbohead
When car sits for a couple of days pedal engages very low (like loss of pressure ) after driven for a while pedal comes back up.
Any body know whats up?
I agree with the group here Bad Accumulator the slave does not fail nearly as often.
I've seen the accumulator replaced probably 20 to 1 in this application.
 
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.What would be symptom of a bad slave?
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Elliot,

I had a master cylinder leak at some point (just a tiny leak, couldn't even see it) and the pedal would go down 3/4 of the way to the floor by morning. If I pumped the pedal, it would build pressure and after about 20-50 pumps, it would have full pressure for the day. If it sat for a prolonged amount of time, say 6 hours, it would begin to lose pressure again and overnight, it would lose all the pressure.
 
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Where do I look to see the what might be leaking on the Master ??
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Elliot,

It's up in the footwell area attached to the clutch pedal at the top. It's a little miniature hydraulic cylinder about 6" in length. I did not replace it myself, but I watched the replacement process. It took about 1/2 hour to remove, replace and bleed the lines. I was told that if even a tiny bubble gets in the system from a leak, it will cause the problem and you may not even see any fluid. I don't think we saw any fluid, my tech just did it based on experience with failed master cylinders and he was right. He may have had to go in from the bonnet firewall side too, I forget.
 
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Originally Posted by John@SpeedTech
Elliot,

It's up in the footwell area attached to the clutch pedal at the top. It's a little miniature hydraulic cylinder about 6" in length. I did not replace it myself, but I watched the replacement process. It took about 1/2 hour to remove, replace and bleed the lines. I was told that if even a tiny bubble gets in the system from a leak, it will cause the problem and you may not even see any fluid. I don't think we saw any fluid, my tech just did it based on experience with failed master cylinders and he was right. He may have had to go in from the bonnet firewall side too, I forget.
I have a clutch pedal squeak up there also so that sounds right to me I'll do that .
Thanks John,
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The accumulator is only a tank, unless it gets a pin hole all you need is a o-ring around the neck of the accumulator size of a dime. Porsche is making a killing on these.
 
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The accumulator is only a tank, unless it gets a pin hole all you need is a o-ring around the neck of the accumulator size of a dime. Porsche is making a killing on these.
Cutaway of Accumulator..... Air / oil separation.....
 
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Hey JJbravo thanx for the pix of accumulator. Yes, sometimes it's just the o-ring especially if there has been recent work. I was just giving another alternative prognosis. This set up really is not needed for persons who track their cars, go with the GT2 set up is simpler. And when the car is running tank gets pressurized even when failed it's for pressure before car is started or sitting.
 


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