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Old 02-06-2009, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Prche951
you laugh, I actually saw a guy do that with an old 84 plymouth aspen. He had a sticker of Rice Krispies on the front fender for every kill. He had about 10 or so stickers and according to him it was for every rice rocket he killed.

Can't wait to run into that new ZR1 in my hood. I'll be happy if I can stay within a car length of him. That is a badass car. sounded evil driving by my house
Pompus? Why because I suggested to go to a track and get a feel for the guys that race their cars? Read this thread from the begining and you might get an education based on FACT!, not worthless opinion from dreamers that want something to be true, when in fact the only place it is true is in ones own mind.
Oh 951 you forgot to mention what times you were running on those 25 passes, so please do tell!
 
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Oh right because no amount of mods on a Porsche can beat a Z06.

 
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Jamie, What was your point? After re-reading the thread, are you telling me that the 2001-5 Z06 (oem) was faster than a 2001-5 911 turbo (oem)? Because it definitely isnt so. Based on fact, I dont think the Z06 was faster until 2006 or so on any track (1/4 mile, the ring ...etc)

Does anyone have any track times of same year Z06 vs 996 turbo? I can do some checking as well.

This is starting to sound like those damn GT-R threads, cant see past their own love of the car to accept the truth.
 
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Originally Posted by STEVE KOJASEVIC
24/18 car would beat the z06 pretty bad

not sure about the 16/16 upstairs

my car pulls VERY well (k24 car w/UMW LWFW, RWD,fabspeed exhaust) from a z06
it also depends on what gear we start

anytime my friend started from 1st (50mph) i couldnt pull

but if we do a fiar race at about 70 mph.... i'll have about 3-4 car lengths by the time we're at 160-170
Steve you forgot about the race with an intake/tune on that night run. I doubt youd forget it
 
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Old 02-06-2009, 11:57 AM
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01 996 turbo
415hp / 415tq
0-60:4.2secs
1/4 mile: 12.7@110mph
01 Z06
385hp / 385tq
0-60: 4.5 Seconds
1/4 mile: 12.8@112.9
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FullTests/articleId=46926/pageId=5130

More interesting links
2000 Porsche 996 turbo
http://fastestlaps.com/car45af6445ed554.html
2003 Chevy Z06 http://fastestlaps.com/car45c7075627643.html

Appears Chevy took its *** beatings and applied it to the C6 Z06, which on paper is a very quick car. Interestingly, the 2006 997 turbo is very comparable to the 2005 Z06:
http://fastestlaps.com/car4585844a79f19.html.
 
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C5 Z06 production ran from 2001 to 2004 !!!

Only the 2001 Z06 had the 385 hp. engine, GM increased the LS6 engine to 405 hp. in 2002.

The 2002 Z06 manufacturer's spec's by GM:

Zero to 60 mph. 3.9 seconds

1/4 mile: 12.4 seconds @ 116 mph.

Many drivers were able to run the 1/4 mile in less than 12.4 seconds, the 116 mph. trap speed is about right !!!
 
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
Oh right because no amount of mods on a Porsche can beat a Z06.

Only your Porsche! My GT2 can beat one!
 
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And the 2002-2005 996TT also came in an "X50" package that upped the power to 450BHP.

I believe those stats can be found on the web and would show it to be competitive...

But all these posts are jibberish...

The Porsche is a fine car. It costs a butload more, but is, in my experience, more durable with less reliability issues.

The Z06Vette is a fine car at half the price.

God, I wish this thread would just die.

Mike

Originally Posted by trumperZ06
C5 Z06 production ran from 2001 to 2004 !!!

Only the 2001 Z06 had the 385 hp. engine, GM increased the LS6 engine to 405 hp. in 2002.

The 2002 Z06 manufacturer's spec's by GM:

Zero to 60 mph. 3.9 seconds

1/4 mile: 12.4 seconds @ 116 mph.

Many drivers were able to run the 1/4 mile in less than 12.4 seconds, the 116 mph. trap speed is about right !!!
 
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Originally Posted by Mikelly

God, I wish this thread would just die.

Mike

Here, Here...!!!
 
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Nice try, but I was comparing a 2001 Z06 to my 2001 turbo. Like another poster mentioned, there was the turbo S and X50 options with another 50-60hp, again the C5 Z06 is slower.

We could always add the variable of wet roads if you'd like....that is of course your roof didn't fly off

Due to popular demand, I'm letting this thread die...

Originally Posted by trumperZ06
C5 Z06 production ran from 2001 to 2004 !!!

Only the 2001 Z06 had the 385 hp. engine, GM increased the LS6 engine to 405 hp. in 2002.

The 2002 Z06 manufacturer's spec's by GM:

Zero to 60 mph. 3.9 seconds

1/4 mile: 12.4 seconds @ 116 mph.

Many drivers were able to run the 1/4 mile in less than 12.4 seconds, the 116 mph. trap speed is about right !!!
 
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Originally Posted by jamie furman
Only your Porsche! My GT2 can beat one!

Not your own it can't.


Mine can beat all the regular ones that can't trap 130 mph stock. Which is all of them except yours.
 
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Mine 2, Dez, but reality is you can't change democrats or republicans... This is as bad as politics, or the GT-R arguments we've seen come and go...

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Originally Posted by heavychevy
Not your own it can't.


Mine can beat all the regular ones that can't trap 130 mph stock. Which is all of them except yours.
 
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Mine 2, Dez, but reality is you can't change democrats or republicans... This is as bad as politics, or the GT-R arguments we've seen come and go...

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Car and Driver Tested the following and CD is pro Chevy and has always been
9/00 996tt 3.9/12.3 192 out of 415 bhp
5/08 road and track 11.7 193

Motor Trend
11/2000 996tt 11.92/116
11/2000 ZO6 vette 12.59/112

So best road test to best road test, the 2008 ZO6 will best the elderly 996tt by 0.22 seconds.

Tune a 996tt and you do the math. with a tune it will be competetive easily and with hybrid turbos and a tune it will likely walk a zo6 easily.

of course you might get the one in a million drivers who has tons of cash and doesn't mind doing clutch duimps on sticky tires at 5000 rpm. In this case if you aren't the same kind of guy just do a rollon from 30,50,60 and it won't matter.
 
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Originally Posted by D33PBLU3
Nice try, but I was comparing a 2001 Z06 to my 2001 turbo. Like another poster mentioned, there was the turbo S and X50 options with another 50-60hp, again the C5 Z06 is slower.

We could always add the variable of wet roads if you'd like....that is of course your roof didn't fly off

Due to popular demand, I'm letting this thread die...
No, it can't die. LOL

What did a 2001 996TT put down to the wheels in stock form?

If I recall right and even in 2001, the Z weighed in at a little over 3100 pounds and put down 360 to 365 to the wheels which show they were underrated for 2001 BHP numbers hence bumped to the 405 the following years.

Doesn't 996TT in stock form weigh in a little more than 3300 lbs?

I would think with the numbers and weights they are very close in a straight line from a stop. AWD Porsche is making up for the weight down low. All said and done, two different animals being compared and by saying one is quicker than the other is a bit overboard in my opinion. Even comparing 2001 years and 385 to 415 BHP... the difference at the wheels and weights and the numbers are right on top of each other for straight line performance.

Just my useless 2 cents of course.

And what's up with people giving me a bad rep for stating facts. Shaking my fist at this board.
 

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