C6Z06 Intake and Tune compared to 996tt
#31
No it's not, you can count on one hand the number of bone stock Z's that have trapped even 128. There my be a couple more on DR's that can trap 129-130 but you wont find one anywhere other than up there where everything goes faster, your car is the fastest by a good margin, in ET and trap speed, than any others we've seen.
Most Z's trap 122-125 which is right where a TT with K24's and an exhaust will trap. I've run even on a straight with a tuned Z06 (dont know other mods), pulled a little in third, lost a little in 4th. That was prior to DV's. I've also run several runs at the strip with a Z06 that was making ~500 whp and other than both of us sucking at launching, there was no pull in either direction. I think at the end of the night he may have gotten a little over 1 mph higher trap than me.
In theory a 18g TT at 1.3 bar should out-run an intake tune Z06.
Most Z's trap 122-125 which is right where a TT with K24's and an exhaust will trap. I've run even on a straight with a tuned Z06 (dont know other mods), pulled a little in third, lost a little in 4th. That was prior to DV's. I've also run several runs at the strip with a Z06 that was making ~500 whp and other than both of us sucking at launching, there was no pull in either direction. I think at the end of the night he may have gotten a little over 1 mph higher trap than me.
In theory a 18g TT at 1.3 bar should out-run an intake tune Z06.
Last edited by jamie furman; 12-18-2008 at 05:26 AM.
#32
Well thats not exactly true, go on the C6 forum and you will find that guys that can actually drive do run in the 126 to 128 range quite regularly and in the cold northeast air run numbers similar to mine. And you can find the same results of mph difference with similar TT's as well with drivers being the difference there also.
I trapped 127 in my bone stock Z06 in nasty, hot and humid weather in Richmond. She would've went 129 in cool, dry temps at MD or Atco...I'm positive of it.
I also ran a 7.86 60-130 with 2-shifts in my stock Z, which is almost identical to a stock Lambo LP640.
It takes a very strong, modified TT to run with a stock Z06, let alone one with an intake and a quality tune.
Last edited by Divexxtreme; 12-18-2008 at 05:33 AM.
#33
There still arent that many guys that are trapping 127+ and that doesnt have much to do with being a great quarter miler. As long as you can shift decently, you can get in the close range of the best trap speed. Not to mention both of you are in the same area of the fastest tracks in the country. How many 127+ trap speeds have we seen outside of the NE again? By and large you'll find better and more serious drivers in Z06's than you will in any type of Porsche, so ET's arent going to match up, not to mention Porsches just arent great drag cars.
Again, I'm not all that into drag racing, but my car trapped 125 at 1000ft elevation in humid weather prior to swapping the DV's with 19techart anvils on it. There is no amount of telling me that I couldnt run with or outrun the vast majority of stock Z06's out there, which havent come close to a 127 mph trap outside of NE. I havent run up there but I'd venture to say I could get 2-3 mph were I to do so. Evoms (I think) didnt travel all the way across the country to race up there for no reason.
Look at the 9Eleven's GT2 that trapped 130 up there with flash/exhaust/WA. The same night Jamie ran 10's. And for the most part GT2's arent trapping any higher per mod than a TT. Maybe 1-2 mph tops.
Again, I'm not all that into drag racing, but my car trapped 125 at 1000ft elevation in humid weather prior to swapping the DV's with 19techart anvils on it. There is no amount of telling me that I couldnt run with or outrun the vast majority of stock Z06's out there, which havent come close to a 127 mph trap outside of NE. I havent run up there but I'd venture to say I could get 2-3 mph were I to do so. Evoms (I think) didnt travel all the way across the country to race up there for no reason.
Look at the 9Eleven's GT2 that trapped 130 up there with flash/exhaust/WA. The same night Jamie ran 10's. And for the most part GT2's arent trapping any higher per mod than a TT. Maybe 1-2 mph tops.
Last edited by heavychevy; 12-18-2008 at 08:46 AM.
#35
24/18 car would beat the z06 pretty bad
not sure about the 16/16 upstairs
my car pulls VERY well (k24 car w/UMW LWFW, RWD,fabspeed exhaust) from a z06
it also depends on what gear we start
anytime my friend started from 1st (50mph) i couldnt pull
but if we do a fiar race at about 70 mph.... i'll have about 3-4 car lengths by the time we're at 160-170
not sure about the 16/16 upstairs
my car pulls VERY well (k24 car w/UMW LWFW, RWD,fabspeed exhaust) from a z06
it also depends on what gear we start
anytime my friend started from 1st (50mph) i couldnt pull
but if we do a fiar race at about 70 mph.... i'll have about 3-4 car lengths by the time we're at 160-170
#37
24/18 car would beat the z06 pretty bad
not sure about the 16/16 upstairs
my car pulls VERY well (k24 car w/UMW LWFW, RWD,fabspeed exhaust) from a z06
it also depends on what gear we start
anytime my friend started from 1st (50mph) i couldnt pull
but if we do a fiar race at about 70 mph.... i'll have about 3-4 car lengths by the time we're at 160-170
not sure about the 16/16 upstairs
my car pulls VERY well (k24 car w/UMW LWFW, RWD,fabspeed exhaust) from a z06
it also depends on what gear we start
anytime my friend started from 1st (50mph) i couldnt pull
but if we do a fiar race at about 70 mph.... i'll have about 3-4 car lengths by the time we're at 160-170
was the Z06 tuned?
#39
wow..so you must be trapping high 130's? Just curious..how much does your car make on the dyno and what turbos?
#42
I think the Z06 will pull on you. I say that because it still has the weight advantage of 300-400 lbs ..if the hp remains equal. A tuned Z06 is anywhere from 490 - 520 whp.
#45
[quote] Look at the 9Eleven's GT2 that trapped 130 up there with flash/exhaust/WA. The same night Jamie ran 10's. And for the most part GT2's arent trapping any higher per mod than a TT. Maybe 1-2 mph tops.
Well I am Jamie and Mario and my car run the same et and mph and we both have a flash, wastegate actuators and exhaust and stock everything else. There were other regular TT cars at the track with us, some claiming over 600hp on the dyno with turbo's plus everything we have and I can tell you they weren't within 6mph or 9 tenths of our time in the 1/4 mile and they weigh about four or 500 pds more than a GT2 also so I have to disagree with your summation. A GT2 with the same exact mods as a regular TT will walk away from a TT, no comparison, its all HP to Weight and the GT2 is much lighter. Also we don't live in New England we live in Virginia and race in southern Maryland. One thing I also noticed is everyone claims they have beat so and so on the street? That doesn't mean anything, get on a track and line up then post how you did! I own both and have raced both and I can speak from experience, not dyno pulls or what so and so's buddy claimed he ran and I beat him so I can beat you. Bone stock Z06's have run 10 second 1/4 miles at 130mph in the real world in as delivered condition on runflat tires, my GT2 could barely get into the 11's at 121 mph bone stock and I have never seen a stock 996 or 997 TT run 11's period and I go to the track alot. You said Porsches aren't good drag cars? Well my GT2 has run an 11.83 at 130 mph on drag radials, I think thats a pretty good time considering the minimal mods. But its only the exact et and mph my bone stock Z06 ran with drag radials! If you do enough mods you can definately blow off a Z06, but a flash, exhaust and wastegate actuators ain't gonna get it done on a regular TT car. A couple of 6 speeders on the board here put together a few track days a year, we post them on the board and a lot of guys show up for them. Some of you guys ought to show up and see if you can match the dyno estimates on the race track, its a lot of fun and you might be surprised by the results. Show up at the track and end the debate!
Well I am Jamie and Mario and my car run the same et and mph and we both have a flash, wastegate actuators and exhaust and stock everything else. There were other regular TT cars at the track with us, some claiming over 600hp on the dyno with turbo's plus everything we have and I can tell you they weren't within 6mph or 9 tenths of our time in the 1/4 mile and they weigh about four or 500 pds more than a GT2 also so I have to disagree with your summation. A GT2 with the same exact mods as a regular TT will walk away from a TT, no comparison, its all HP to Weight and the GT2 is much lighter. Also we don't live in New England we live in Virginia and race in southern Maryland. One thing I also noticed is everyone claims they have beat so and so on the street? That doesn't mean anything, get on a track and line up then post how you did! I own both and have raced both and I can speak from experience, not dyno pulls or what so and so's buddy claimed he ran and I beat him so I can beat you. Bone stock Z06's have run 10 second 1/4 miles at 130mph in the real world in as delivered condition on runflat tires, my GT2 could barely get into the 11's at 121 mph bone stock and I have never seen a stock 996 or 997 TT run 11's period and I go to the track alot. You said Porsches aren't good drag cars? Well my GT2 has run an 11.83 at 130 mph on drag radials, I think thats a pretty good time considering the minimal mods. But its only the exact et and mph my bone stock Z06 ran with drag radials! If you do enough mods you can definately blow off a Z06, but a flash, exhaust and wastegate actuators ain't gonna get it done on a regular TT car. A couple of 6 speeders on the board here put together a few track days a year, we post them on the board and a lot of guys show up for them. Some of you guys ought to show up and see if you can match the dyno estimates on the race track, its a lot of fun and you might be surprised by the results. Show up at the track and end the debate!
Last edited by jamie furman; 12-18-2008 at 07:49 PM.