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Old 12-26-2008 | 08:24 PM
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Markski has a point here. If your car was running right, you would have taken him easy.
 
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Old 12-26-2008 | 08:43 PM
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Many people have the wrong impression that Tips are slower than 6speed; it is only true for 120+ mph. Tips are very fast from stand still and rolling start.

According to your mod list, it is about the same as some people called Stage-2; the performance of a Stage-2 996TT is about the same as a stock 997TT. I'm not surprise a stock 997TT beated yours especially with a shift error. With the exception of high hp mod 996TT (like Markski's), I think an equally mod 997TT beats a 996TT.
 
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Old 12-27-2008 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MARKSKI
I have a feeling its not a good program and or you may have boost leaks... DVs failing, exhaust leak, etcs... it could be anything...
pressure test the car from the turbos....
I woudl be skeptical when a company in Germany sends the ecu to Guatemala to install it and back to you... something doesnt add up....
I agree, I think you need a better tune in your car, or whatever is wrong fixed so you are running a consistent 1.2 bar and you will send that 997tt home and packing
 
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Old 12-27-2008 | 09:50 PM
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Barring some kind of mechanical issue (such as the diverter valves, etc.) it sounds like the shifting was to blame, and we know that the 997TT had a tiptronic and was thus slightly quicker and dummy proof during the race. I am sure if your 996TT is running right that you'll take him when you hit your shifts properly. Good luck in the rematch!
 
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The OP mentioned he had K24s. Is that still considered stage 2? I thought tuned K24 cars put out in the 550-600hp range with almost identical torque which is a fair bit more than a stock 997TT. I figure with this differential even a small hiccup in shifting shouldn't lose a race.

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Many people have the wrong impression that Tips are slower than 6speed; it is only true for 120+ mph. Tips are very fast from stand still and rolling start.

According to your mod list, it is about the same as some people called Stage-2; the performance of a Stage-2 996TT is about the same as a stock 997TT. I'm not surprise a stock 997TT beated yours especially with a shift error. With the exception of high hp mod 996TT (like Markski's), I think an equally mod 997TT beats a 996TT.
 
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The OP mentioned he had K24s. Is that still considered stage 2? I thought tuned K24 cars put out in the 550-600hp range with almost identical torque which is a fair bit more than a stock 997TT. I figure with this differential even a small hiccup in shifting shouldn't lose a race.
I believe it is a little above Stage-2 at 550 with a OEM K24, the original poster should have a little less according to the mod list. Although a stock 997TT posted with less hp (480), but it is advertised 3.7 0-60 and 8.5 0-100 which are about the same as a 550 996TT can do. (please remember 996TT and 997TT don't have the same turbo)
 
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Originally Posted by dreamtripper
The OP mentioned he had K24s. Is that still considered stage 2? I thought tuned K24 cars put out in the 550-600hp range with almost identical torque which is a fair bit more than a stock 997TT. I figure with this differential even a small hiccup in shifting shouldn't lose a race.

that sounds right and it is more fuel limited than anything else. The new turbos on the 997tt are a slightly smaller version of the GT2's and are very efficient with lots of low end torque. He's probably got a better torque and power curve that doesn't peak as high and that coupled with the faster tip shifting that does not allow boost to drop off, gives him a jump on every shift.
 
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The OP said he had K24s and some unknown tune job, certainly within the real of possibility that he makes far less than 550hp.
 
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Old 12-29-2008 | 08:28 AM
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Hi markski,how can i test the car pressure of the turbos??.At this moment i have the car at the dealer because the "check engine" lite up.I run the car the 25' and the check engine lited on the 27'.I turned the car this morning maybe they find somethig out.Because if it has a leak anywhere the computer should diagnose it,right?
 
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I almost never see 1.2 bar.When the car was stock it ussualy boost 0.7 bar,sometimes 0.8-0.9 0r somethig like that.When i modded the car ussualy runs 0.9,sometimes 1.0 and very rare 1.1 bar.almost NEVER see 1.2 bars ,only spiks at the right moment when changing gear thats between 1.2-1.4 bar
 
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Old 12-29-2008 | 08:56 AM
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Thank you steve
 
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Old 12-29-2008 | 09:15 AM
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TT my car has K24 turbos,fabspeed muffler and sport cats,evo diverters and the ecu mapped.
I am comfused,i assumed i could take that car even with the driving mistake,but before the mistake at the end of 3' the 997 was at my side.After the mistake he was 0ne car ahead.
 
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Originally Posted by rdss
I almost never see 1.2 bar.When the car was stock it ussualy boost 0.7 bar,sometimes 0.8-0.9 0r somethig like that.When i modded the car ussualy runs 0.9,sometimes 1.0 and very rare 1.1 bar.almost NEVER see 1.2 bars ,only spiks at the right moment when changing gear thats between 1.2-1.4 bar
I have K24's with Remus exhaust, BOV, 5Bar, Flash, GT2 IC's and Y-Pipe and I am running a constant 1.2 bar through every gear, with the colder weather I am seeing my car hold 1.3 (which scares me a little) I know my car runs a little bit rich on fuel as well which doesnt bother me much.
 
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The boost never drops when a tip shifts...it is idiot proof (I know 'cause I have one)once the boost is up. I also believe you may well be closer to 500hp than 550hp, and thats when things are functioning properly. Let us know about the engine light, and what they find.
 
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Old 12-29-2008 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dublinoh
The boost never drops when a tip shifts...it is idiot proof (I know 'cause I have one)once the boost is up. I also believe you may well be closer to 500hp than 550hp, and thats when things are functioning properly. Let us know about the engine light, and what they find.
I'll let you guys know what the dealer said about the light and i think you are rigth, it is closer to 500hp than 550hp.
 
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