I meant going thru 4 different set ups, K16, K24, GT28 (Giac), GT28 Proto.

 

Right, I get that. But at each stage, you had a hi and lo boost setting or you used the EBC to better control the boost set by the flashed ECU?

 

I used the EBC to control the boost at desired levels according to racing modes. Three modes: 1.0bar=pump gas, 1.2bar=100octane, 1.4bar=C16 with my recent modd. Older mods, I've had Giac with Handheld pump file and race file. Boost controller, best thing invented.

 

Justin,

remember one thing... there are only I believe 2 tuners in this country to date with the ability to LIVE tune with a Bosch motronic emulator....... hence, most of it is a flash via the internet.... and thus lots of slow cars running around with loud exhausts... lol this is not an evo/ supra/subaru world with AEm and or Autronik etc....
we have made 600+rwhp long time ago on pump gas... just with bigger turbos... map sensing? forget about it.... not on a stock ecu. Stand alones? I still have yet to see one openly sold to the public... etc... We have put down 1000 rwhp on a stock ECU with a maf.... that ought to tell you something....
I get calls from guys running a $10K 600hp kit beating up somone with a $40k buildout... etc... things that make you go hhmmm... However, there is some good work offered by some... unfortuantley the one that is a genius programmer is not that good at welding and fabricating.. etc... and vice versa.
If you want to see some really fast Porsches... come to Tulsa...
best,
mark

 

I want to come to Tulsa....

 

Understood...

I already installed a stand alone on my car(02 Turbo), just to make sure it would work and that I could incorporate it into the stock ecu seamlessly(no CEL). So far, so good. Granted, it's what I do though. Could it be packaged? Sure. But the licensing is the big deal.

1khp is not bad through the MAF.... but the big question is, how did the car drive? I understand the clutch would be a bit aggressive(or a bit light, if it's a Tilton), but the rest of the drivability? Any stalling? Any rough areas, etc. As long as it's not ginormously oversized, it could be made to work very well, and as I mentioned before is the way to go for 80+% of the masses. It's the people that are not in the masses that start to question things. Could this be repeated in an internet tune?

I might take you up on the offer to come up to Tulsa, if for no other reason to visit Hallett again I really liked the layout of that track although the track conditions(surface) left ALOT to be desired. I remember changing my line on the carousel 10 different times because the surface was "eroding"(for lack of a better word). Likewise, we have some rather quick cars down here in Austin as well If you're in the area, feel free to look me up.

Take Care
Justin

 

[quote=justinn;2197164]Understood...

I already installed a stand alone on my car(02 Turbo), just to make sure it would work and that I could incorporate it into the stock ecu seamlessly(no CEL).


Kinda confused here...you installed a "standalone" and want to make sure it adapts to your Stock ECU?
Where I come from a Standalone REPLACES the stock ECU? Did you mean all the stock sensors and wiring? What standalone also? PM me if you want.

 

The boost does not adjust and change, the ECU will adjust to the different octane. You dont want to be running more then 1.3bar anyways. You can buy a Greddy so you have the convenience of setting a high and low boost for street or track, but with a proper map, the boost will stay consistant for what it is set. Its your choice to spend the $360 or not. I would run one if you want to tune down your car for the street.

 

Justin , what stand alone are you using ?

 

You're installing larger turbos and modifications to make more power correct ?

For a street/weekend car, why limit yourself to 1 set condition or have to reflash the ECU everytime you are in a scenerio. A properly installed boost controller will have no ill effects on the car. If installed incorrectly you can have issues, or if you decide to run too much boost on limited octane. This is true with any vehicle modification beyond simple air filters and exhaust.

If you are worried about blowing engines, not comfortable with modifying the boost or inflicting some self control with the boost levels/octane that you are running, then you might want to consider leaving the car stock. If you are looking to push the power that is beyond what the manufacture intended, installed a boost controller and air-fuel gauge. Do some do dilligience and learn some basic knowledge of how a performance engine functions properly, and learn the do's and don'ts. Your engine and wallet will thank you, and you will learn to enjoy modifiying your car and appriciate driving it even more.

To those who think that they will never run race gas, drive your car on 1.0-1.1 bar for a few months, it'll feel great. It will feel very fast, that is until you take a ride in a car on a higher boost running on a quality fuel such as MS109. If you remember what it felt like to go from Stock K16s to Flash K16s , in my opinion the difference between race gas and pump gas is equally as eye openning when using K24/18G turbos.

 

[quote=ttboost;2197203]You need to understand who Justin is, he is Justin Nenni on of the leading free-agent ECU tuners here in the states.

 

I hope you are including me as one of them...if not there are 3 .

 

Welcome Justin! I have read/heard many great things!

 

[quote=ttboost;2197203]The term 'standalone" is commonly referred as a "standalone engine management", in most modern cars however the factory ECU and harness controls and input/outputs more than just the functions that allow the engine to function. To install a "Standalone engine management" in one of these cars and still save the creature comforts you piggy back the factory unit to allow these to function properly, while taking full control over the engine and it's functions in an effort for more control,power, and data.

That being said in a thread where people are concerned about the uses of a boost controller, those should be extremely scared of such a solution. The standalone management compeltely takes control of your ECU allowing functions that many can't even imagine. The flip side of this is, it opens up the tuning market for your car to EFI tuners, rather than those who have the software/hardware to tune a factory ecu. There are plenty of world renowned tuners out there who tune Porsches without using the factory ECU. With a standalone and such a person we can really begin to push the limits of the engine, and tune it on the fly.

Justin - We have the next step in production for a kit like this in the works. We've already has the jumpers made and tested, just need to figure out and work with which ECU will be used. It should really open up the tuning market for people like yourselves when such units become popular and widely accepted.

 

Flash:
I think the bottom line is this:
if you just drive your car on the street or track at 1 boost level, you don't need an EBC. If you would like the ability to put in some race gas and turn the boost up a bit once in a while, you NEED a boost controller, or the ability to reflash your car as necessary. People that have a spare ECU don't need an EBC, they just have to change boxes, not as convenient for sure, but the potential for more power, definitely. For those of us used to tuning our own cars with AEM, F.A.S.T., etc... a standalone isn't such a foreign thing.