Not feeling the power out of my 24/18g's. HELP!
#61
01-13-2009, 08:48 PM
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An EBC seems to control the boost better than the stock boost control sytem, but this depends on your tuner. A related and more fundamental question...do you have stock or upgraded wastegates? Stock WGs will hurt your power at these power levels.
You are asking the right question though...I don't know what other 24/18G tiptronics are either. But...low 8s are nothing to sneeze at. IIRC stock 6speed 996TT is 12s.
You are asking the right question though...I don't know what other 24/18G tiptronics are either. But...low 8s are nothing to sneeze at. IIRC stock 6speed 996TT is 12s.
#62
01-13-2009, 09:41 PM
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Hard to tell from the pics in your avatar, but are those 22" wheels? That might be your problem right there. 
Seriously though, if all else check out OK, just try doing more runs to improve on that time. Even though it's a tip, practice will help. Not sure if you should manually shift or keep it in auto...try different methods and see what works best.
Seriously though, if all else check out OK, just try doing more runs to improve on that time. Even though it's a tip, practice will help. Not sure if you should manually shift or keep it in auto...try different methods and see what works best.
#63
01-13-2009, 10:20 PM
My opinion is based on what I've heard from multiple friends here in Houston that have had problems with Softronic, their support, and their product. I could have worded my comment differently, but would you rather me rip the company apart in an eloquent manner such as Craig might do, or just cut to the chase.
Softronic is using Protomotive tuning under lease or some agreement. I've heard problems with people getting in touch with Scott, problems with emissions because of widebands being turned off, and not disabled properly, and now a friend, who has been way too patient isn't even being able to utilize the thousands of dollars in mods for more than a month.
If you think Todd, or Tony are in debt to Scott at Softronic for his knowledge of tuning I have a bridge for you.
Ryan
Softronic is using Protomotive tuning under lease or some agreement. I've heard problems with people getting in touch with Scott, problems with emissions because of widebands being turned off, and not disabled properly, and now a friend, who has been way too patient isn't even being able to utilize the thousands of dollars in mods for more than a month.
If you think Todd, or Tony are in debt to Scott at Softronic for his knowledge of tuning I have a bridge for you.
Ryan
#64
01-14-2009, 05:06 AM
Hello,
I'm glad you like the Softronic tune and it should be interesting to see what the added brake boost will actually take off your current set up from the other tuner. Between your car and this one was a .6 .
We also have cars in the 4's.
I'm glad you like the Softronic tune and it should be interesting to see what the added brake boost will actually take off your current set up from the other tuner. Between your car and this one was a .6 .
We also have cars in the 4's.
I think you should add a EBC and get with Tony @ EPL about a tune. His K24/18G setup has run 6.08's in the 60-130s and I think a 10.6 @ 135mph in the 1/4. The car does have intake pipes, an extra fuel pump and runs a high amount of boost. It still proves that the tune is solid even running that amount of boost. I will be having Tony write me a tune soon enough. Hopefully with the brake boosting feature it should allow me to run in the 5s with the option to brake boost in 3rd gear.
#65
01-14-2009, 05:09 AM
Interesting since Todd does not perform our tuning and we have had NO issues with any cars passing emissions. Your comments are blatantly wrong and malicious. Perhaps you can tell us what car failed emissions? They were turned off wrong? Now thats another laugh. I suggest that you get your facts correct .
Perhaps you could make up some more stories, you seem to be a good fiction writer.
I do not have to say anymore on this.
Best Regards,
Scott Slauson
Perhaps you could make up some more stories, you seem to be a good fiction writer.
I do not have to say anymore on this.
Best Regards,
Scott Slauson
My opinion is based on what I've heard from multiple friends here in Houston that have had problems with Softronic, their support, and their product. I could have worded my comment differently, but would you rather me rip the company apart in an eloquent manner such as Craig might do, or just cut to the chase.
Softronic is using Protomotive tuning under lease or some agreement. I've heard problems with people getting in touch with Scott, problems with emissions because of widebands being turned off, and not disabled properly, and now a friend, who has been way too patient isn't even being able to utilize the thousands of dollars in mods for more than a month.
If you think Todd, or Tony are in debt to Scott at Softronic for his knowledge of tuning I have a bridge for you.
Ryan
Softronic is using Protomotive tuning under lease or some agreement. I've heard problems with people getting in touch with Scott, problems with emissions because of widebands being turned off, and not disabled properly, and now a friend, who has been way too patient isn't even being able to utilize the thousands of dollars in mods for more than a month.
If you think Todd, or Tony are in debt to Scott at Softronic for his knowledge of tuning I have a bridge for you.
Ryan
Last edited by Softronic; 01-14-2009 at 05:20 AM.
#66
01-14-2009, 08:56 AM
An EBC does nothing but allow you to adjust the boost. If he is running 1.3 bar, he is running 1.3bar. Ideally on pump gas you should not run more. Yes he can change the gain on the Greddy, to how the boost comes on, but I doubt that will this entire post solved. An EBC will give him the opportunity to have a high and low boost and a warning feature if the car overboosted. Putting an EBC on stock internal wastegates is not necessary unless the stock boost solenoid is not holding boost consistant.
TXGold - That statement is harsh. Come on bro, lets place nice here. Do you know that Protomotive and Softronic work together on tuning sometimes? Do you know that companies such as FVD, Proto, and others use Softronics interface to load and share files? When EPL was tuning on Audi, he consulted Scott at Softronic many many times for help. Lets all know that everyone works together. When tuning my 996TT as we developed the 650 kit with Garrett turbos, I received maps from Todd and Scott as they were trying to get it dialed.
If everyone is so pro EPL and pro Protomotive, simple, Todd can connect to an exact same setup K24/18G car as his and use the Durametric cable and data log it. Compare the datalogs from both cars and you can see if the numbers coincide. Check to see where it is running rich or lean and what part of the power is up or down. PS - the map in Todds car is the same map those running Protomotive flashes from Proto or Titan get. Its the same map sent around!
TXGold - That statement is harsh. Come on bro, lets place nice here. Do you know that Protomotive and Softronic work together on tuning sometimes? Do you know that companies such as FVD, Proto, and others use Softronics interface to load and share files? When EPL was tuning on Audi, he consulted Scott at Softronic many many times for help. Lets all know that everyone works together. When tuning my 996TT as we developed the 650 kit with Garrett turbos, I received maps from Todd and Scott as they were trying to get it dialed.
If everyone is so pro EPL and pro Protomotive, simple, Todd can connect to an exact same setup K24/18G car as his and use the Durametric cable and data log it. Compare the datalogs from both cars and you can see if the numbers coincide. Check to see where it is running rich or lean and what part of the power is up or down. PS - the map in Todds car is the same map those running Protomotive flashes from Proto or Titan get. Its the same map sent around!
Dan- I have purposelessly refrained from posting in this thread.... but let me clear something up.
I have been tuning Bosch ME7 ecu's since 01. The first time I spoke with Scott was 07.... We have NEVER asked Scott for help on anything tuning related.
We were tuning, datalogging with inhouse programs and flashloading 4-5 years before I even knew of the existence of Softronic.
Please refrain from mentioning or commenting on anything EPL related in your post. I have done the same for months now....
Last edited by Tony@epl; 01-14-2009 at 10:40 AM.
#67
01-14-2009, 08:59 AM
Regards to everything else I sent you an email detailing everything. So please feel free to take a look at it when you get a chance.
#68
01-14-2009, 10:36 AM
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Seriously though, if all else check out OK, just try doing more runs to improve on that time. Even though it's a tip, practice will help. Not sure if you should manually shift or keep it in auto...try different methods and see what works best.
Seriously though, if all else check out OK, just try doing more runs to improve on that time. Even though it's a tip, practice will help. Not sure if you should manually shift or keep it in auto...try different methods and see what works best.
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01-14-2009, 11:09 AM
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Sorry didn't read the whole thread. My understanding is 1.2 BAR on pump gas and 1.3 BAR on race gas. Are you over boosting?
#70
01-14-2009, 11:25 AM
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1.3 on pump. No race gas.
#72
01-14-2009, 11:30 AM
TX gold i must admit your statement was pretty harsh bro. simply repeating hear say and or rumors .
thats like saying or repeating rumors i have heard about EPL stealing UMW and protos tune and just revising them , does that mean thats true ?
lets play nice here .
thats like saying or repeating rumors i have heard about EPL stealing UMW and protos tune and just revising them , does that mean thats true ?
lets play nice here .
#73
01-14-2009, 11:32 AM
I'm shooting for mid 700rwhp area and I will not give up my 19s! These cars are rear engine cars so they do not have that much issues with traction unlike Vettes, Mustangs, Vipers, etc.. Unless you are having major traction issues I don't see why anyone would want 18s (seeing as you already have the tires for 19s). Rob, Paulie, Joe, and I all rock'em.. Sean is the only 18" club when it comes to aftermarket wheels. Remember who cares about HP its all about whos car looks the most ballin at the end of the day 
Which reminds me.. I need a new front bumper and a GT2 wing so I can stand out!
#74
01-14-2009, 11:58 AM
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Without question 18s are better performing. Less unsprung weight. Improved acceleration, braking and turning. GT3 Cup cars run 18s. I run 19s on the street but not on the track.
#75
01-14-2009, 12:10 PM
If he is going to be road racing then I take that back, but if he is not going to be doing it whats the point of having a 18" rim. My F110's are lighter than most 18" wheels. Weighting in at 18-19lbs in the front and 21-22lbs in the back.