Does 600 hp upgrade cause long term reliability issues?
#16
GBG
what are you going to do exactly ?
every tuner has a "600hp" kit
tuner a can have their 600hp kit dyno 480rwhp, tuner b can have theirs make 550rwhp
for example, illm3 (ruf gt2), the car is claimed to be the "590" kit, and that thing is quick as hell
same thing with RCNJ's gt2
there was a guy who claimed to have an "800hp kit" by a tuner on here, and my car was faster than his
what are you going to do exactly ?
every tuner has a "600hp" kit
tuner a can have their 600hp kit dyno 480rwhp, tuner b can have theirs make 550rwhp
for example, illm3 (ruf gt2), the car is claimed to be the "590" kit, and that thing is quick as hell
same thing with RCNJ's gt2
there was a guy who claimed to have an "800hp kit" by a tuner on here, and my car was faster than his
#18
btw, i think UMW advertises my software upgrade as 575 hp ??
meanwhile, i can pull on a evo 600 without any problems
what size tires are you running ? you'll need something sticky to hook up in the lower gears
my tires are shot (my rear left tire is on the metal bead on one side due to camber wear) and i get sideways in 3rd gear
p.s. i would also suggest you upgrade your brake pads, upgrade to stainless steel lines, and put castrol racing brake fluid in your car (vivid racing sells em)
you need to balance the rest of the car to be able to cope with the power, to give you more confidence ...
meanwhile, i can pull on a evo 600 without any problems
what size tires are you running ? you'll need something sticky to hook up in the lower gears
my tires are shot (my rear left tire is on the metal bead on one side due to camber wear) and i get sideways in 3rd gear
p.s. i would also suggest you upgrade your brake pads, upgrade to stainless steel lines, and put castrol racing brake fluid in your car (vivid racing sells em)
you need to balance the rest of the car to be able to cope with the power, to give you more confidence ...
Last edited by DNugget991GT3; 02-21-2009 at 04:03 PM.
#19
GBG
what are you going to do exactly ?
every tuner has a "600hp" kit
tuner a can have their 600hp kit dyno 480rwhp, tuner b can have theirs make 550rwhp
for example, illm3 (ruf gt2), the car is claimed to be the "590" kit, and that thing is quick as hell
same thing with RCNJ's gt2
there was a guy who claimed to have an "800hp kit" by a tuner on here, and my car was faster than his
what are you going to do exactly ?
every tuner has a "600hp" kit
tuner a can have their 600hp kit dyno 480rwhp, tuner b can have theirs make 550rwhp
for example, illm3 (ruf gt2), the car is claimed to be the "590" kit, and that thing is quick as hell
same thing with RCNJ's gt2
there was a guy who claimed to have an "800hp kit" by a tuner on here, and my car was faster than his
I haven't decided exactly what I plan to do, but at the moment I'm planning to do upgraded turbos (garret hybrids), headers, exhaust, boost hoses, fuel pressure regulator, and programming, and most likely also upgrade the intercoolers and clutch.
GBG
#20
GBG
speak to lenny spoolin
he also has a convertible TT
i believe had gt28s installed on his car.... from what i remember , he was making 661rwhp
keep in mind a convertible is heavier than the sedan, so you would have to neutralize the weight disadvantage by adding more power
speak to lenny spoolin
he also has a convertible TT
i believe had gt28s installed on his car.... from what i remember , he was making 661rwhp
keep in mind a convertible is heavier than the sedan, so you would have to neutralize the weight disadvantage by adding more power
#21
That first post by Steve was amazing! I love it....
Yeah these cars are really strong. I have not heard about any big or major issues happening with them and I know a lot of guys that beat and push them really hard!
Yeah these cars are really strong. I have not heard about any big or major issues happening with them and I know a lot of guys that beat and push them really hard!
#23
GBG
speak to lenny spoolin
he also has a convertible TT
i believe had gt28s installed on his car.... from what i remember , he was making 661rwhp
keep in mind a convertible is heavier than the sedan, so you would have to neutralize the weight disadvantage by adding more power
speak to lenny spoolin
he also has a convertible TT
i believe had gt28s installed on his car.... from what i remember , he was making 661rwhp
keep in mind a convertible is heavier than the sedan, so you would have to neutralize the weight disadvantage by adding more power
#24
no sweat
btw , i would love to check out your car one day
i dont like convertible cars, with the exception of the porsche 911
i think its the sexiest convertible because of the wide *** , and i would most definately trade my car for one
btw , i would love to check out your car one day
i dont like convertible cars, with the exception of the porsche 911
i think its the sexiest convertible because of the wide *** , and i would most definately trade my car for one
#26
Before you decide there are zero long term reliability issues, from an engineering perspective if you increase the stresses you increase likelihood of failure.
There is little data (other than the posts you get once in a while) that would speak to your question- LONG TERM reliability. 50 people can post "I've got big turbos and no issues" and that still isn't 'data'.
now, if you question was 'should I mod, is the slight risk worth the reward?' my answer is yes- but you asked if increasing output reduces long term reliability. The answer is: we don't really know- there is no hard data, and theoretically you should see a higher failure rate over many samples.
my 2 cents
A
There is little data (other than the posts you get once in a while) that would speak to your question- LONG TERM reliability. 50 people can post "I've got big turbos and no issues" and that still isn't 'data'.
now, if you question was 'should I mod, is the slight risk worth the reward?' my answer is yes- but you asked if increasing output reduces long term reliability. The answer is: we don't really know- there is no hard data, and theoretically you should see a higher failure rate over many samples.
my 2 cents
A
#28
Before you decide there are zero long term reliability issues, from an engineering perspective if you increase the stresses you increase likelihood of failure.
There is little data (other than the posts you get once in a while) that would speak to your question- LONG TERM reliability. 50 people can post "I've got big turbos and no issues" and that still isn't 'data'.
now, if you question was 'should I mod, is the slight risk worth the reward?' my answer is yes- but you asked if increasing output reduces long term reliability. The answer is: we don't really know- there is no hard data, and theoretically you should see a higher failure rate over many samples.
my 2 cents
A
There is little data (other than the posts you get once in a while) that would speak to your question- LONG TERM reliability. 50 people can post "I've got big turbos and no issues" and that still isn't 'data'.
now, if you question was 'should I mod, is the slight risk worth the reward?' my answer is yes- but you asked if increasing output reduces long term reliability. The answer is: we don't really know- there is no hard data, and theoretically you should see a higher failure rate over many samples.
my 2 cents
A
#29
GBG, if I were you, I'd give Kevin a call over at UMW and talk to him for 20 minutes.
Have any of you 600+ hp guys had long term reliability issues with this type package (Upgraded turbos, headers, exhaust,boost hoses, fuel pressure regulator and programming)? I'm using an excellent shop, but still wanted to be sure from real-life experiences that this type of hp increase doesn't invite engine/tranny problems. Thanks. GBG
P.S. Also, do you recommend upgraded intercoolers and clutch?
P.S. Also, do you recommend upgraded intercoolers and clutch?
#30
I've talked to a few tuners and they all (predictably) say that a 600 hp upgrade will have no long term impact on the motor. Of course, it depends on how one defines "long term". (If long term mens a few years and/or 30,000-40,000 miles, then they and this Board has plenty of data points; if long terms means 10 years and 100,000 miles, then they probably do not). I am more interested in the 30-50,000 mile answer, but would of course like to hear whatever people have to offer.
These posts have been very helpful. Thanks.
These posts have been very helpful. Thanks.