How many hours labor to replace plugs,diverter valves,..do I need
#16
Wow...I feel bad about my wrenching skills after reading this thread. I easily spent 5 hours my first time doing plugs, but I took my time. I bet a good mechanic could do it much quicker.
Last edited by Scottslaw; 02-26-2009 at 10:48 AM.
#19
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lol 4-5 hours ?
remove the rear bumper .. i think its 4 or 6 bolts
I'm sure it's about 12
remove both intercoolers
that about 5 minutes for each side
15 minutes each for newbie... half that if done a few times
removing and replacing each spark plug with proper torque is about 2 minutes per plug
This is where you should take your time... 5 minutes a plug
its about 45-50 minutes for the plug job
45-50 minutes!!!!! Don't know what you mean
15 minutes for the diverter valves
Are you for serious? Could be anywhere up to a couple of hours for a newbie, well under half that time if done a few times
and another 15 minutes for the coil packs
Again think you will find this job should not be rushed and they need properly clipped in... more than 15min
clean off the intercoolers
put everything back on
remove car from lift/ jack
and youre all done
If you do it in your times, I would be expecting missfires, boost leaks and a bumper falling off half way down the road
remove the rear bumper .. i think its 4 or 6 bolts
I'm sure it's about 12
remove both intercoolers
that about 5 minutes for each side
15 minutes each for newbie... half that if done a few times
removing and replacing each spark plug with proper torque is about 2 minutes per plug
This is where you should take your time... 5 minutes a plug
its about 45-50 minutes for the plug job
45-50 minutes!!!!! Don't know what you mean
15 minutes for the diverter valves
Are you for serious? Could be anywhere up to a couple of hours for a newbie, well under half that time if done a few times
and another 15 minutes for the coil packs
Again think you will find this job should not be rushed and they need properly clipped in... more than 15min
clean off the intercoolers
put everything back on
remove car from lift/ jack
and youre all done
If you do it in your times, I would be expecting missfires, boost leaks and a bumper falling off half way down the road
#21
I just remembered that I also removed the taillights and the exhaust heat shield. I seem to recall that I probably didn't have to remove the heat shield, but for some reason removing the taillights was required/helpful.
#22
lol 4-5 hours ?
remove the rear bumper .. i think its 4 or 6 bolts
remove both intercoolers
that about 5 minutes for each side
removing and replacing each spark plug with proper torque is about 2 minutes per plug
its about 45-50 minutes for the plug job
15 minutes for the diverter valves
and another 15 minutes for the coil packs
clean off the intercoolers
put everything back on
remove car from lift/ jack
and youre all done
remove the rear bumper .. i think its 4 or 6 bolts
remove both intercoolers
that about 5 minutes for each side
removing and replacing each spark plug with proper torque is about 2 minutes per plug
its about 45-50 minutes for the plug job
15 minutes for the diverter valves
and another 15 minutes for the coil packs
clean off the intercoolers
put everything back on
remove car from lift/ jack
and youre all done
I think your estimate of times is very optimistic!
Bumper has 3 - 4 bolts on top, four on bottom and two top sides. You also have to take off the bumperettes and tail lights and disconnect the plate light wire harness. Simple, but not 4 - 6 bolts... Then you have to take off the rear inner wheel well liners and I would pull the rear wheels if I did it again. Gets to tight with the tires on.
5 minutes to take the intercoolers out each side! I would love to see it done in 5 minutes! Have to take out 5 bolts, two heat shield nuts disconnect two hoses and wiggle it out. At least 10 - 15 minutes per side if you know what you are doing. If you have air ratchets and everything lined up with an assistant, you might get it at 5 minutes.
Changing the plugs in 2 minutes. Yeah, if you are staring at them. Have to take out the rear heat shield, bend the side ones up, take off the heat sheilds on the heads, then take out each coil pack all in a confined space. Once you get that done, then 2 minutes per plug to take them out, inspect them, then install and torque. Again, not a hard job, just tight and many bolts.
Anyway, 45-50 minutes for a plug job with one person is totally unrealistic! I think I could probably do it in 2.5 hours now with help. We had to locate a hidden intercooler bolt on the first side that killed about 10 minutes and I would take the tires off that would save a little time.
Anyway, just my 2 cents. Did you change yours yet? I think you mentioned in a thread you were going to do it soon?
Thanks!
Chad
#23
-- edit -- Crap! just checked it, no lights... Looks like I get the pleasure of taking the bumper off again. At least it is easy...
Last edited by raineycd; 03-07-2009 at 07:47 PM. Reason: DID I MENTION CRAP!
#24
lol too funny...
#27
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Diverter valves in 15 minutes???????????????????????????????
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did I just see............................................... ..........................................
Diverter valves in 15 minutes???????????????????????????????
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#28
I did my diverter vales in about 2 hours, with the help of a friend.
Sometimes you need extra power and force to wrestle down some of the cables/hoses in the tight engine compartment.
Plugs is a different animal. What were the Porsche engineers thinking when they decided on the plug location ?
Today I've been working on a full turbo/exhaust swap and deciced to change the plugs while I had so many of my critical components stripped down. Let me tell you...it doesn't go that quick. After 7 hours of work I've taken off rear spoiler, bumper, intercoolers, exhaust, turbos and changed the plugs. Tomorrow the Hybrids and the Europipe go on.
While I performed some extra steps, changing the plugs is NOT a 3 hour job !
Sometimes you need extra power and force to wrestle down some of the cables/hoses in the tight engine compartment.
Plugs is a different animal. What were the Porsche engineers thinking when they decided on the plug location ?
Today I've been working on a full turbo/exhaust swap and deciced to change the plugs while I had so many of my critical components stripped down. Let me tell you...it doesn't go that quick. After 7 hours of work I've taken off rear spoiler, bumper, intercoolers, exhaust, turbos and changed the plugs. Tomorrow the Hybrids and the Europipe go on.
While I performed some extra steps, changing the plugs is NOT a 3 hour job !
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