CF Intercooler?

 

$600 bucks is super cheap crap, and probably fits like it. A good quality CF hood is likely to run over $2000, $3000 or more. if you want hoods for $600 try Tijuana they might fit good enough for a honda civic but on a Porsche? The CF wrapped porsche center console is over $2k alone. Ughh it is one thing to get a small trinket done cheaply but anything large has to be done very well as it s fit and wavyness shows

 

i beg to differ, i have seen good quality hoods for hondas that cost around 1,000.00 range, they fit good and look good, i just wonder why suddenly when it's for a porsche the price goes up to 2,000-3,000.00

it is possible if the price was reasonable , and teh quality was good why can't it happen?

 

I've yet to see a good quality CF hood for a honda. Most of them are crap, the weaves are crap, the resin is crap, hell most of them are just fiberglass w/ a CF weave put on them. And most look like complete **** after a year they start to crack, etc.

Do you know which company you were looking at? Also, you have to think, civic CF hoods would sell a lot more then 996 hoods would, thus the price difference.

 

COULDNT remember what brand it was, to be honest,just stating a point that a company doesnt need to charge us p-car owners an exorbinant (sp?) amount of money for parts (ie cf hood etc.) just because we own a porsche it doesnt mean we need to get overcharged, im just looking for a good quality cf hood at a good price.... around the 1000.00-1,500.00 range at the most..

i've been snowballed more than once by shady mechanics... ever since i owned a european car, one mechanic told me back in the day that since i had a mercedes, they had to charge me 150.00 for an alignment bec.. of this and that and that, the whole process was gonna take 1 1/2 - 2 hours... then when they did the alignment the car was done in 30 mins...

just dont think it's fair ..

in my opinion ....

 

It's MAshaw which I was referring to. Understanding the need to make a profit, however this needs to be balanced against the "porsche tax" levied.

 

Well, as I stated, I've never seen a true good quality hood for under 1200 or so (they look good at first, but look like crap after time and are usually not even made completely of CF). And as said before, a honda civic will sell a lot more quality CF pieces then a 996 would, thus the price difference. If the 996 had the ability to sell as much as a civic I'm sure prices would be cheaper.


And mechanics EVERYWHERE look for an excuse to screw you no matter what you drive. Pull in with a bucket to replace an alternator and before you know it the mechanic will say you need to replace this and that also.

 

Joe you hit it on the dot... i can't stand how all these people pay a hefty amount for products that we or I (as a former Ricer) knows cost way less to produce. Then they try to back it up with blah blah blah, you get what you pay for ...blah blah blah... $4k plus for a Techart front bumper that doesn't bolt on easily and can stick out 1/2" on the right side...haha give me a break...or how about a $2500 Gemballa 993 stylehood whose fitment sucks ***... I understand the economics behind supply and demand but a majority of the aftermarket prices on Porsches are laughable as i've been doing so for while...

Soon2be993tt: VIS is one company that makes good CF parts for Imports and their prices are reasonable.

Lifedies: I think you'd get a good buzz goin for quality interior pieces that are considerable less than dealers.. You might try and set yourself apart by goin as far as making full CF door panels and dash. Personally i'd be very interested in OEM looking CF Decklids/ wings/ rear bumper/ front fender/etc... I actually have an idea for my car... Awhile back, there was a lot of interest in a quality CF hood. I'm still looking for one that fits well. This one guy Patrick Nguyen makes some nice quality custom pieces (he has the 996 converted to GT1, featured in "Mobile Entertainment October 2003). Other competition is Getty Design.....

Either way.... if you make quality CF products for a fair price, i'd be your #1 customer

Good Luck

 

Have you seen one? Ask Evan AMGETR about the Carbon gt2 wing he got from Mike Shaw.....

 

I think the problem is most people don't understand what makes a good quality cf product. So many things have to be considered when engineering a part such as a hood. I spent 15,000 in research before I actually sold my first hood. I had to test resin fomula's, screw with the fiber orientation, make sure my secondary bonded brace and cnc'd threads would last, etc. If you want someone who throws some resin in a mold and slaps some fiber in go with the other guys. The people who charge more put the money in. And the difference between molds is HUGE! I spent thousands just to make a nice mold. Ever look at a CF part and notice how wavey it is? Try to get one flat and smooth. You'll pay for it. I dunno, I thought it might be of interest. Not sure.

 

Someone weigh two hoods. I bet you'll find a couple ounces of difference between the two because the manufacturing process isn't consistant. Resin content in a carbon part should be at most 40 percent. Most of the **** on the market is probably well over 60 percent. The technology used is the same the surfboard industry used in the 60's.

 

I've dealt w/ VIS before and have had mixed feelings, some products have been good (compared to what's out there), some have been trash. But I wouldn't call the good parts real good quality. And if I'm not mistaken, VIS is carbon laid on top of fiberglass skeleton.

But I'm w/ you, techart has no excuse for selling a piece that costs that much and doesn't fit right out of the box.

 

Life Dies: I think you really have to consider your targeted market... Hypothetically, with that much attention to detail....i dare to say your product may be overbuilt and under appreciated by the masses. And a product like that can only be appreciated by a select few which in turn would not generate the sales needed to maintain the business. However, if you made a part that is both quality (fitment, aesthetics to a degree) and functional (lighter), then you would have an item that would sell itself, assuming that it is priced competitively.

For the wider market, i don't think they are as meticulous as you or me. When I check out my friends Stradale, i see tons of flaws in the CF but most people, IMO, want something that looks decent enough to be on a street car and saves them some weight.

 

anyone who buys CF pieces for looks is

 

Every carbon piece that comes from the Porsche Factory is ONLY FOR LOOKS.