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Old 03-20-2009, 06:41 PM
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The durametric software makes a graph in excel by itselve,when you make a run to log some data,you just have to push a button EXPORT on the durametric software and it converts all data to excel.The only thing I did was adding the A/F to excel.Maybe your software at the durametric is not set up correctly because you can choose in saving data in excel and something else which I forgot.
 
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Old 03-20-2009, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by dixie
The durametric software makes a graph in excel by itselve,when you make a run to log some data,you just have to push a button EXPORT on the durametric software and it converts all data to excel.The only thing I did was adding the A/F to excel.Maybe your software at the durametric is not set up correctly because you can choose in saving data in excel and something else which I forgot.

Mine lets me export into exel, but will give me a spreadsheet. It will, not graph a/f automatically in exel thou.
 
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Originally Posted by adam699
Mine lets me export into exel, but will give me a spreadsheet. It will, not graph a/f automatically in exel thou.
You need to read the Excel manual...and it depends on your version. Go to help and input line chart...it will explain it. You will select the column you want charted and click the line chart button and voila.
 
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Old 03-22-2009, 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by wross996TT
You need to read the Excel manual...and it depends on your version. Go to help and input line chart...it will explain it. You will select the column you want charted and click the line chart button and voila.
Ya, Voila

I'm not slow by any means But selecting two ranges of data and graphing it on the x&y axis, taking into account that the AFR is not linear data and needs to be allocated to particular RPM during a run cycle is not as easy as 123... I wish it was, cause I wouldn't need to ask.
 
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Anyone know where to get definitions and normal ranges of these items:

(I think this is a list of Actual Values in Durametric https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...-readings.html )


RPM
Engine load
Actual engine torque
Ambient pressure
Mass air flow (HFM)
Altitude correction factor
Supply voltage
Intake air temperature
Engine temperature
Engine compartment temperature
Oil temperature
Exhaust temp. after cat. conv.
Ignition angle
Spec. RPM
Loss adaption, idle
Injection time
Camshaft position 1 deviation
Camshaft position 2 deviation
Actual angle for camshaft, bank 1
Actual angle for camshaft, bank 2
Mass air flow
Carbon canister load
Outside temperature
Actual angle for inlet camshaft, bank 1
Actual angle for inlet camshaft, bank 2
Spec. angle for inlet camshaft, bank 1
Spec. angle for inlet camshaft, bank 2
Oxygen sensing, bank 1
Adaption, range 2 (FRA), bank 1
Adaption, range 1 (RKAT), bank 1
Fuel quantity, tank ventilation, bank 1
O2 sensor resistance behind cat. converter, bank 1
O2 sensor voltage behind cat. converter, bank 1
Corrected sens. voltage ahead of cat. converter, bank 1
Oxygen sensing, bank 1 Lambda Value
O2 sensing, bank 1 delay
Lambda setpoint, B1
O2S volt. ahead of cat. converter, B1
Dynamic value of the O2 sensor, bank 1
Number of dynamic measurements LSU, bank 1
Oxygen sensing, bank 1
Adaption, range 2 (FRA), bank 1
Adaption, range 1 (RKAT), bank 1
Fuel quantity, tank ventilation, bank 1
O2 sensor voltage ahead of cat. coverter, bank 1
O2 sensor voltage behind cat. coverter, bank 1
Regulator delay behind cat. converter, bank 1
Sensor-signal period ahead of cat. conv, bank 1
O2 sensor resistance ahead of c.c., bank 1
O2 sensor resistance behind c.c., bank 1
Oxygen sensing, mean value, bank 1
Adaption, range 2, lower (FRAU), bank 1
Adaption, range 3, uppper (FRAO), bank 1
Resist. limit, O2S ah. of cat. conv, B1
Resist. limit, O2S behind cat. conv, B2
Heating power, O2S ahead of cat. c, bank 1
Heating power O2S behind cat. c, bank 1
Timer, active diagnosis
Oxygen sensing, bank 2
Adaption, range 2 (FRA), bank 2
Adaption, range 1 (RKAT), bank 2
Fuel quantity, tank ventilation, bank 2
O2 sensor resistance behind cat. converter, bank 2
O2 sensor voltage behind cat. converter, bank 2
Corrected sens. voltage ahead of cat. converter, bank 2
Oxygen sensing, bank 2 Lambda Value
O2 sensing, bank 2 delay
Lambda setpoint, B2
O2S volt. ahead of cat. converter, B2
Dynamic value of the O2 sensor, bank 2
Number of dynamic measurements LSU, bank 2
Oxygen sensing, bank 2
Adaption, range 2 (FRA), bank 2
Adaption, range 1 (RKAT), bank 2
Fuel quantity, tank ventilation, bank 2
O2 sensor voltage ahead of cat. c., bank 2
O2 sensor voltage behind cat. c, bank 2
Regulator delay behind cat. c, bank 2
Sensor-signal period ah. of cat, c, bank 2
O2 sensor resistance ahead of cc bank 2
O2 sensor resistance behind cc, bank 2
Oxygen sensing, mean value, bank 2
Adaption, range 2, lower (FRAU), bank 2
Adaption, range 3, upper (FRAO), bank 2
Resist. limit, O2S ahead of cc, B2
Resist. limit, O2S behidn cc, B2
Heating power, O2S ahead of cc, bank 2
Heating power, O2S behind cc, bank 2
Timer, active diagnosis, bank 2
Tank pressure difference
Leakage volumetric flow
Control deviation, tank diagnosis
Mean amplitude behind cc, bank 1
CC monitoring time, bank 1
Mean amplitude behind cc, bank 2
CC monitoring time, bank 2
Period counter, bank 1
Period counter, bank 2
Dist. since powerfail
Distance with check engine on
Fuel level
Actual P/D factor, tank vent
Spec. P/D factor, tank vent
Sensor-signal period ahead of cc, B1 (OBD)
Sensor-signal period ahead of cc, B2 (OBD)
Tank pressure difference, filtered
Relative air mass, secondary air, bank 1
Relative air mass, secondary air, bank 2
Driving cycle counter
Warmup counter
Rough-running reference value
State: adaption 1 (rough running)
State: adaption 1 (rough running)
State: adaption 2 (rough running)
State: adaption 3 (rough running)
Cylinder 1 misfire counter
Cylinder 6 misfire counter
Cylinder 2 misfire counter
Cylinder 4 misfire counter
Cylinder 3 misfire counter
Cylinder 5 misfire counter
Ignition counter diagnosis
Rough running, cylinder 1
Rough running, cylinder 6
Rough running, cylinder 2
Rough running, cylinder 4
Rough running, cylinder 3
Rough running, cylinder 5
Reset counter: learn. filter overflow
Reset counter: plaus. test FSE
Pedal value
Pedal encoder potentiometer 1
Pedal encoder potentiometer 2
Spec. throttle plate angle
Actual value, throttle
Throttle position sensor 1
Throttle position sensor 2
Target speed, cruise control
Vehicle speed
Throttle plate angle, potentiometer 1
Throttle plate angle, potentiometer 2
Hot film MAF
Power supply
Ambient pressure
Press accelerator full load detection
Press accelerator idle detection
Medium-pressure switch
A/C request
Start enable switch
Disturbance switch
Stop light switch
Stop light switch
Immobilizer
Fuel reserve signal
Cruise control readiness
Clutch switch
Cruise control - store/accelerate
Cruise control - decelerate/resume
Ready status - cat. efficiency
Ready status - tank vent
Ready status - sec. air system
Ready status - O2 sensors
Ready status - O2 sensor heater
Boost pressure of sensor
Spec. air charge
Setpoint boost pressure
Boost pressure control deviation
Boost pressure control P/D factor
Corr. factor for BPC with charge air temp.
Corr. factor for BPC with knock control
Boost pressure limit for coolant failure
Boost pressure limit for extreme exhaust temp.
 
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Old 05-19-2009, 09:03 AM
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I was playing with my Durametric yesterday and I also would love to see a Guru who can explain all these parameters....Except of course the obvious ones...
 
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I might buy Auterra Dyno Scan (even if it is a POS).

Here is the Manual that has definitions starting on Page 50 (no idea how they map to Durametric):
http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/auter...dowsManual.pdf

Web site
http://www.auterraweb.com/

Parameter list (without definitions I believe)
http://www.auterraweb.com/paramlist.html

Demo version
http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/auter...wsSoftware.zip
 

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Originally Posted by fdorn
I might buy Auterra Dyno Scan (even if it is a POS).

Here is the Manual that has definitions starting on Page 50 (no idea how they map to Durametric):
http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/auter...dowsManual.pdf

Web site
http://www.auterraweb.com/

Parameter list (with definitions I believe)
http://www.auterraweb.com/paramlist.html

Demo version
http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/auter...wsSoftware.zip

Very useful Thanks.
 
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Old 05-19-2009, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jpflip
Very useful Thanks.
This looks like the way to go (click on screenshots)

http://www.auterraweb.com/dashdynopropack.html

its had a pass thru to the pc software, but it also can be used with out a PC to display almost anything (including fault code and reseting). Question is "does it actaully work".

Its like 379 - I think I am going to try it out.
 
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Originally Posted by jpflip
Very useful Thanks.
Just an FYI, I talked with someone that knows a little about Durametric and there are a bunch of formula's that can be applied to "Actual Values" to get BAR etc. I let you know when I know what they are.
 
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I will test my theory on the way home, but this is how I think you can get to BAR from the Durametric.

"Boost pressure of sensor" is an Actual Value in the Durametric and it is displayed in mbar. In my car, at idle it is 990 (this number will vary depending on how high above sea level you are - I think). The standard atmosphere (symbol: atm) is a unit of pressure and is defined as being equal 14.696 PSI, 1013.25 mbars (at sea level). 0 Bar reading in the car is actually equal to 14.696 PSI or 1.013 BAR (at sea level) so the gauge is a measurement above atm (the Durametric is a total reading). 1.0 BAR reading in the car is an additional 14.696 psi or 1 additional bar of boost pressure.

Under acceleration, if I record a reading of 1569 through the Durametric it needs to be converted to match the reading on the gauge in the car.
1568 - 990 (reading at idle) = 578 mbar / 1000 = .57 BAR or .6 bar on the gauge or 8.5 psi

I'll let you know if my theory is a pile of crap or not
 

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some OBD-II Parameter stuff

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OBD-II_PIDs

http://obddiagnostics.com/obdinfo/pids1-2.html
 

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Anyone know what the Actual Engine Torque value means? And what unit of measurement it is?
 
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So I did my little test on the way home.

Vehicle Speed is converted from km to mph
Diff is Boost Presure from Durametric minus Baseline which is a column I added
BAR is Diff / 1000 to go from mbar to bar

I saw 1.2 bar spike (17.47 psi) on dash - never saw that before....but confirmed by my theory

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Something I learned by experience is if you use a power adapter on the laptop, your sampling rates will increase, on battery the rates decrease nearly to the point that logging is nearly worthless. I dont have performance metrics, but my tuner can definitely see a significant difference. I bought a small converter at best buy and keep it in the car for when I do data logging.
 


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