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Old 04-02-2009, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr_jitsu
The new Tial Alpha bolt on 28rs's with the cast stainless steal exhaust housings or whichever one will outflow 24/18s. My GT 3076's out flow 24/18s, but not enough to convince me that any 28's will. Of course I could be wrong so I am open to enlightenment.
Sean you have to understand that you (and I) are BARELY in a GT30's real efficiency range. The 24/18 is on the end of it on high boost. Lets say you turn your turbos up to 1.7 or 1.8 bar the difference will REALLY shine. The 24/18 will not make the power like that on that amount of boost.
 
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Originally Posted by Powell
Sean you have to understand that you (and I) are BARELY in a GT30's real efficiency range. The 24/18 is on the end of it on high boost. Lets say you turn your turbos up to 1.7 or 1.8 bar the difference will REALLY shine. The 24/18 will not make the power like that on that amount of boost.
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tial how does your gt30's work on a tiptronic 996tt? and what is else is needed for the swap out?
 
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Old 04-02-2009, 02:28 PM
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Yes Chris, there is 105 hp difference between 1.2 bars and 1.5 w/ my GT 30's. I know that 1.6 would give me 35 more hp but I am afraid my stock bottom end would not like that.

However I am still unconvinced that the 28's will produce more power than the 24/18's.
 
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Originally Posted by Dr_jitsu
Yes Chris, there is 105 hp difference between 1.2 bars and 1.5 w/ my GT 30's. I know that 1.6 would give me 35 more hp but I am afraid my stock bottom end would not like that.

However I am still unconvinced that the 28's will produce more power than the 24/18's.
what are the highest #'s you've seen from a K24/18g car?
i'll dig up some of the 28 dynos

this one is actually a smaller gt28 variant, the turbine wheel is much smaller than a standard 53.8mm gt28 turbine wheel, and also has a smaller compressor wheel (this was on an Audi S4....i'm still digging for the 996 dyno's)
 

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Originally Posted by Dr_jitsu
Yes Chris, there is 105 hp difference between 1.2 bars and 1.5 w/ my GT 30's. I know that 1.6 would give me 35 more hp but I am afraid my stock bottom end would not like that.

However I am still unconvinced that the 28's will produce more power than the 24/18's.
Ditto Doc and as far as I'm concerned I am rather attached to my engine staying in one piece. So I'm not interested in pushing 1.4 or more bar.
 
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Has Chris green hit 700whp yet? I thought he was close?
 
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Originally Posted by boca996tt
tial how does your gt30's work on a tiptronic 996tt? and what is else is needed for the swap out?
i've been told they work very well, only thing you need to change out are turbos (obviously you need the supporting mods)
 
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Originally Posted by TiALSport
what are the highest #'s you've seen from a K24/18g car?
i'll dig up some of the 28 dynos

this one is actually a smaller gt28 variant, the turbine wheel is much smaller than a standard 53.8mm gt28 turbine wheel, and also has a smaller compressor wheel (this was on an Audi S4....i'm still digging for the 996 dyno's)
If this were a 2wd car, on a dynojet.....it would be 725+ rwhps from a SMALL 28rs variant.
 
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Old 04-02-2009, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ReeknHavic
Ditto Doc and as far as I'm concerned I am rather attached to my engine staying in one piece. So I'm not interested in pushing 1.4 or more bar.
1 bar of boost on a k24/18 doesnt = 1 bar of boost on a 30r.
Boost doesn't directly = cylinder pressure.
Boost doesn't directly = detonation.
Boost doesn't directly = engine failure.

Running 1.4 bar of boost daily, on pump gas and for a very long time....is very possible.
 
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I have never heard of any 28 ever making anywhere close to that kind of power even on full out kill mode. I don't buy it.
 
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Originally Posted by ReeknHavic
I have never heard of any 28 ever making anywhere close to that kind of power even on full out kill mode. I don't buy it.
544 a wheel on pump gas. 28rs on 1 liter less displacement.
 
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Highhats 28rs's

 
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:10 PM
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Didn't Highhats have a built bottom end? What boost and was this rwd?
 
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Originally Posted by ttboost
Has Chris green hit 700whp yet? I thought he was close?
Yeah I think Chris is at 701 or something like that. He's running a E85 setup on his 18g.
 


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