Gunther (member here) has one in his car and I drove it... No way in hell I'd use this kit... The pedal disengagement point was at the dash, literally... Noise was JUST like the 964 LWFWs, and it's just NOT the right clutch for this car. I remember Gunther commenting last fall when he had the clutch put in how much he liked it, initially, and now it's HORRIBLE...

Steer clear...

Mike

 

Like you, I had GREAT luck with the Spec Stage 3 Hyper in my modified C5. Loved that clutch kit... However, See my comments above about Gunther's K24/18G with that setup... That clutch is not very old *(I think about 6 months) and the pedal has to be let almost all the way out before it engages. It's literally at the dash before it functions properly. This may or may not be a faulty part, but I know Gunther isn't happy with it, and I damned sure couldn't heel/toe with it... Zero issues with my clutchmasters (Basically Kevin's kit), other than the slave cyclinder/accumulator issues I've had, and the kevlar sticking to the flywheel/PP once in a while...

Mike

 

EPL/tial 3071s and water/meth injection....my goal is >550awhp

 

My opinion is that because of the "power assist" of the 996, it makes it very difficult to "feel where and how the clutch engagement is. I'd bet that with the GT2 setup, with NO accumulator and such, the Spec clutch is more "livable"?

 

I don't know, but his "holds" the power just fine, once it grabs. The problem is where it grabs. I stalled Gunther's car 20 times when I drove it. Literally the pedal was all the way up to the last 1/4 inch before the motor would power the car forward... it was simply horrible, and there's no way I'd live with that. And on such a great package as Gunther's... Ugh!!!

Mike

 

I had a Sachs setup recently installed that was exactly as you describe. It was because of the "pucked" disc. My Indy stepped up and fixed it. He actually drove the car (at my request) for a few days and agreed it was unbearable. It held the power, but it let up 1/4in from the top and I stalled it EVERY time I drove it and could NOT slip it AT ALL. All we changed was the disc and the clutch is now very civilized, not like stock, but acceptable. Thats probably the ONLY think I don't like about the 996 is the clutch system. I will change it someday. I want that Big Block Camaro clutch feel...

 

I put a stage 3 on my car and also put a lwfw; my 2c is the clutch is a little grabby at first and the take up point high but you'll get used to it an it will slip better as you break it in. Importantly though don't get the lwfw if its a street car unless you like stalling a lot until you get the hang of it.

 

I just purchased Kevin's kit. Hasn't been installed yet, but I will post after it's done. I spoken to a couple of Kevin's customers who couldn't be happier.

 

Ok so the SPEC stage 3+ is what they told me to buy for my street car.

What stage does Gunther have?

Audikp-does your clutch feel somewhat like a normal aggressive clutch or is it terrible to drive and grabs only at the top with no clutch slipping?

My worst nightmare is to get a clutch that was like my triple disc Supra Clutch that grabbed at the top (this is adjustable of course) and made so much noise and was a on-off switch with about 1/4 inch engagement point

Every other performance clutch I've ever driven was more drivable then the triple Supra clutch...not too stiff but very tuff to slip.

 

Would converting to the gt2 setup alleviate the problems many are having with the engagement points?

 

I think it would help, as with the GT2 clutch you can actually feel exactly what is happening, whereas with the hydraulic assist the feedback is just not there.

 

just trying to revive this thread. Looking for a clutch that drives most like stock for a car with k24/18s that sees occasional track use. This is my wife's car and I don't want to make the mistake by taking the driveability out of the car. Thanks!

 

Installed Kevin's clutch kit about 2K miles ago...no problems and the release is about the same as stock. I get a little chatter in reverse, but it seems to be leveling out as I use it more. I need another couple thousand miles on it to make a really good assessment, but so far so good.

 

The set up I have in the car now is the SPEC stage 2+. I hade the 3+ but it is a solid hub and totally undriveable on the street. At least for me. The stage 2+ was a vast improvement over the 3+ and is at least street driveable. As Mike notes the pedal feel is still a bit vague and the pedal engagement is very high. Mike if you remember I also stalled your car a time our two. After a little driving you get used to it.

I bought it becasue of the price point (Under a grand). It was less than half of the Sachs kit. It has performed well and holds the power with no problems. All said I will buy another SPEC clutch when this one wears out. I'm German and all that but the Sachs prices are just BS for such a basic item!

 

Gunther, i've fixed my setup. It was indeed a bad accumulator... I've also gone back to a stock exhaust with a "de-tune" and I have to say, the car doesn't feel nearly as "detuned" as I'd been concerned about... I also got to Drive Larry's car, and I must admit I was surprised when I drove it and found the sound of the EP 2Q... It wasn't as "quiet" as I'd thought it would be... Quieter than the rest I've heard, but certainly not "quiet".

There's no way I could live on the track with your clutch man. Heel/toe is impossible with that setup... That said, you may well just have a damage PP. Something to get inspected once you're settled in over there in the mother land, no?

Let me know when you're back in town and we'll hook up for some dirt bike riding!

Mike
Mike