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Old 04-09-2009 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Prche951
haha, I have heard Harleys that would make you deaf, and they don't get ticketed. I would definitely fight this ticket.
Agree 100%. Fight it. When the officer gets on the stand ask him if his ears are calibrated for calculating 95 db +/-. Then ask what brand decible meter he used or was he just guessing. Ask whether he recorded the sound so he can play it for the court. Ask whether he crawled under the car to inspect the muffler and on and on and on...
 

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Originally Posted by Onetime
Not true

Motorcycle Limits

27202. For the purposes of Section 27200, the following noise limits shall apply to any motorcycle, other than a motor-driven cycle, manufactured:

(1) After 1969, and before 1973 .................................................. .................................................8 8 dba
(2) After 1972, and before 1975 .................................................. .................................................8 6 dba
(3) After 1974, and before 1986 .................................................. .................................................8 3 dba
(4) After 1985 .................................................. .................................................. ...............................80 dba
That is also measured from 50 Feet away.
 
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That is also measured from 50 Feet away.

I think I'll get my mother n law a muffler for her mouth so she can keep from getting ticketed
 
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I think I'll get my mother n law a muffler for her mouth so she can keep from getting ticketed
 
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dont forget economy is bad and they looking for cash!!!!!
i got stop few weeks ago for the same thing,my exhaust was loud he said when i ask him why he stopped me
But my sticker was expired so he gave me a ticket for the sticker only!
 

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That does it. I'm calling the moving company right now.
or you have a choice to come here to south crakalakie. no auto laws over here also. and instead of a trailer park you can get a space of wide open land to put your tailer on!!!
 
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Originally Posted by Onetime
Agree 100%. Fight it. When the officer gets on the stand ask him if his ears are calibrated for calculating 95 db +/-. Then ask what brand decible meter he used or was he just guessing. Ask whether he recorded the sound so he can play it for the court. Ask whether he crawled under the car to inspect the muffler and on and on and on...
Good advice. The fact that the cop did not use a db meter is an automatic dismissal in Nevada. Same as if a cop testifies that the substance is cocaine because it looks like cocaine. There has to be scientific evidence which has been widely accepted (such as a db meter) when the law establishes a level of proof such as 95 db or .08 blood alcohol. As for the front tag, tape it to your front bumper and take a photo. Take it to court and show the judge. it will probably get dismissed. The tint also has a meter requirement, and it has to be in the correct amount of sunlight. No meter, no ticket.

The reason these tickets are rarely given is that they actually require a certain amount of proof, which most cops are too lazy or disorganized to properly collect. They give out the ticket on the chance that people will just pay. Don't pay, shove those tickets right back up the MAN'S A**.
 
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Originally Posted by mannytt
He didn’t say anything about modified he just said it was too loud.
Dude, neither you nor I should give a crap about what he SAID.... it is what he WROTE on the ticket that defines how you defend yourself. Take it into a referee for a smog equipment check and you might be thinking 'wow, I wish I paid the fine'

All citations will list a section of the vehicle code that you are charged with violating... this is usually VC then 5 numbers then some letters.....

PS M Theory- ANY tint on the driver or passenger is illegal in CA.
 
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Correct, check 26708(a) VC
 
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Old 04-10-2009 | 01:22 PM
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I have had this happen to me. I took it to a smog referee station and it was determined that the exhaust was NOT too loud.

Be sure your car will pass smog or does not have any outward visible modifications to the motor, headers, kats, etc.

When I took my Dinan M3 with supercharger in, there was no issue. All the did is check for the loudness of the exhaust. They certified it as legal. I brought it into the judge and the ticket was dismissed.
 
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Originally Posted by cjv
I have had this happen to me. I took it to a smog referee station and it was determined that the exhaust was NOT too loud.

Be sure your car will pass smog or does not have any outward visible modifications to the motor, headers, kats, etc.

When I took my Dinan M3 with supercharger in, there was no issue. All the did is check for the loudness of the exhaust. They certified it as legal. I brought it into the judge and the ticket was dismissed.

Excellent!
 
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Originally Posted by cjv
I have had this happen to me. I took it to a smog referee station and it was determined that the exhaust was NOT too loud.

Be sure your car will pass smog or does not have any outward visible modifications to the motor, headers, kats, etc.

When I took my Dinan M3 with supercharger in, there was no issue. All the did is check for the loudness of the exhaust. They certified it as legal. I brought it into the judge and the ticket was dismissed.

Was this is KALIFORNIA?

Smog referee stations can be funny places, depends on where it is (ie what CARB District you are in) and what they are used to seeing.

In CA to be "legal" it needs to have a California Air Resource Board (CARB) listing... this means the mfg has had it certified to pass emissions and loudness.

While police can cite you for being too loud, the CARB can find that it is not too loud but it is not a listed exhaust and therefore doesn't matter what the emissions are- if it isn't listed it isn't legal, period. Smog results don't matter.

I suppose one might hope that this station is just looking to test loudness and not to check CARB status....
 
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Old 04-10-2009 | 02:41 PM
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Was this is KALIFORNIA?

Smog referee stations can be funny places, depends on where it is (ie what CARB District you are in) and what they are used to seeing.

In CA to be "legal" it needs to have a California Air Resource Board (CARB) listing... this means the mfg has had it certified to pass emissions and loudness.

While police can cite you for being too loud, the CARB can find that it is not too loud but it is not a listed exhaust and therefore doesn't matter what the emissions are- if it isn't listed it isn't legal, period. Smog results don't matter.

I suppose one might hope that this station is just looking to test loudness and not to check CARB status....
Yes, it was in California. I believe I used the one located at Evergreen College in San Jose. You have to call them to make an appointment specifically for checking of the loudness of the exhaust. There is a very minor fee.
 

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My friend who has a VW R32 got the same ticket for a stock exhaust. It's EASILY beat, especially with the info that you gave us.

When the cop went to the front of the car, you shoulda told him, it's one of those new electric Porsche's.

Good luck on your fight, should be an easy win, but more of an inconvenience. Also, I'd do it all through the mail for convenience factor.
 
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Old 04-11-2009 | 10:54 AM
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went to the smog referee i'm at about 106 decibles, which is louder than the law allows.would this ticket be counted as a moving violation? i'm thinking about just changing it out for the stock exhaust system, and just say it's been stock all along.
 


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