Ran a LP560-4 last night
#16
04-10-2009, 12:19 PM
Ken, definitely not my experience as I do not have your level of power. However, you have the largest turbos UMW makes with the ZC. That is the same kit that you can take all the way to stage4 and around 800 to the wheels. At 600 whp unless that gallardo is defying the laws of physics, your car should walk it.. Just my opinion. I know the guys at the lambo dealer, so I will see if I can run against one with my kit just to see where I stack up. I should be dead even with one at my power level. especially from a roll where the launch advantage is nullified.
also, I have a hard time getting traction in 1st, 2nd and part of 3rd gear....you should be worse off than me
#18
04-10-2009, 12:39 PM
I just noticed the starting gears. 3rd at 40 mph? With those big turbos it might take you a bit to get spooled up. I have done rolling 55-60 mph starts in that gear so at 40 mph you were low in the power band. but if he was pulling you then you have a problem.
#19
04-10-2009, 12:45 PM
Its not all about hp, there are many other variables... LP560 is extremely fast with *only* 560hp and can run near 11 flat @ 130mph bone stock. 996TT will need a lot more hp to run similar times.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...t_lambo_dp.pdf
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...t_lambo_dp.pdf
#23
04-10-2009, 01:16 PM
Its not all about hp, there are many other variables... LP560 is extremely fast with *only* 560hp and can run near 11 flat @ 130mph bone stock. 996TT will need a lot more hp to run similar times.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...t_lambo_dp.pdf
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...t_lambo_dp.pdf
#24
04-10-2009, 01:31 PM
There is no way an almost 3800 curbweight car with 552 crank hp is trapping 129.5. Either they've over corrected or the car is MAJORLY underrated. Isn't it AWD too? Not gonna happen, something is wrong with that picture.
Either way, with 600 whp you should not be getting walked. Your car is easily a 130 mph trapping car too. Something is wrong with your car or that Lambo is modded.
Either way, with 600 whp you should not be getting walked. Your car is easily a 130 mph trapping car too. Something is wrong with your car or that Lambo is modded.
#25
04-10-2009, 01:41 PM
An LP560 is a very fast car! One has been dyno'd recently and lets just say the car is SEVERLY under-rated.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67TSoEGhAsM
But, if you have a TRUE 600 whp, then you should have won.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67TSoEGhAsM
But, if you have a TRUE 600 whp, then you should have won.
#26
04-10-2009, 01:42 PM
There is no way an almost 3800 curbweight car with 552 crank hp is trapping 129.5. Either they've over corrected or the car is MAJORLY underrated. Isn't it AWD too? Not gonna happen, something is wrong with that picture.
Either way, with 600 whp you should not be getting walked. Your car is easily a 130 mph trapping car too. Something is wrong with your car or that Lambo is modded.
Either way, with 600 whp you should not be getting walked. Your car is easily a 130 mph trapping car too. Something is wrong with your car or that Lambo is modded.
#27
04-10-2009, 01:43 PM
There is no way an almost 3800 curbweight car with 552 crank hp is trapping 129.5. Either they've over corrected or the car is MAJORLY underrated. Isn't it AWD too? Not gonna happen, something is wrong with that picture.
Either way, with 600 whp you should not be getting walked. Your car is easily a 130 mph trapping car too. Something is wrong with your car or that Lambo is modded.
Either way, with 600 whp you should not be getting walked. Your car is easily a 130 mph trapping car too. Something is wrong with your car or that Lambo is modded.
http://www.caranddriver.com/content/...rdoLP560-4.pdf
The slowest time I've seen was 11.4 @ 127mph from motortrend:
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...est/index.html
What is a 1/4 mile time for a 600whp 911? Isnt it also around 11 flat @ 130mph? 3 car lengths sounds like a lot, but it is only a few tenths difference in the 1/4 mile...
#28
04-10-2009, 01:53 PM
It is what it is. R&T got 129.5mph, C&D got 130mph. Here is another one:
http://www.caranddriver.com/content/...rdoLP560-4.pdf
The slowest time I've seen was 11.4 @ 127mph from motortrend:
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...est/index.html
What is a 1/4 mile time for a 600whp 911? Isnt it also around 11 flat @ 130mph? 3 car lengths sounds like a lot, but it is only a few tenths difference in the 1/4 mile...
http://www.caranddriver.com/content/...rdoLP560-4.pdf
The slowest time I've seen was 11.4 @ 127mph from motortrend:
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...est/index.html
What is a 1/4 mile time for a 600whp 911? Isnt it also around 11 flat @ 130mph? 3 car lengths sounds like a lot, but it is only a few tenths difference in the 1/4 mile...
However, the LP-560 gets alot of its quickness from a good standing start. Notice the 60-130 times are around 8 sec. A 600 whp TT should be at or below 7 seconds in 60 -130. Since the OP raced from a roll he should have won assuming he has 600 whp and decent driving skill.
#29
04-10-2009, 02:10 PM
Something is seriously wrong here. How do you know your car is a 600whp car? Have you dynoed it? what dyno is the 600whp? awd or rwd? any 60-130 times? Just beacuse your tuner says its a 600 whp kit doesnt mean it actually acheived those numbers. Maybe your car went into limp mode...what boost do you see now?
Regardless...even at mid 500 whp ..you should walk the lambo...one possibility here is you started in 3rd gear at really low speeds.
Regardless...even at mid 500 whp ..you should walk the lambo...one possibility here is you started in 3rd gear at really low speeds.
#30
04-10-2009, 02:13 PM
I had a chance to run a friend's LP560-4 last night on a free way. His car is totally stock and we didi rolling runs from a variety of speed
2nd gear (my car holding around 3200 - 3500 rpm ) - 30mph to 130mph
3rd gear ( my car holding around 3200 - 3500rpm ) - 40mph to 130mph
We did a total of approximately 10 pulls, and everyrun the LP outran me and gradually walk away from me with about 2 to 3 car lengths until 130pmh I am running out of steam but it seems the LP still has room to continue to run. When I was driving I had no issue putting my car's power down to the road and I shifted every gears at around 6500 rpm but damn these LP are fast.
So, I thought I share my experience here just in case if you see a LP560-4, respect them.
2nd gear (my car holding around 3200 - 3500 rpm ) - 30mph to 130mph
3rd gear ( my car holding around 3200 - 3500rpm ) - 40mph to 130mph
We did a total of approximately 10 pulls, and everyrun the LP outran me and gradually walk away from me with about 2 to 3 car lengths until 130pmh I am running out of steam but it seems the LP still has room to continue to run. When I was driving I had no issue putting my car's power down to the road and I shifted every gears at around 6500 rpm but damn these LP are fast.
So, I thought I share my experience here just in case if you see a LP560-4, respect them.
thats funny