Predictions: tiptronic GT28"alpha" vs 6-speed K24/18g
#17
Trying to set something up...
#18
I will be in CT to pick it up this saturday. I have your 70mm exhaust on it
Perhaps, he is on to something, want to meet up at EPL? I do expect your car to be faster since you have almost 600whp and I have 535whp. Tony did say that he is giving me a milder tune for now because I would like to play it safe. I want to be able to beat up the car without worrying about the car being in the shop all the time. I trust Tony he really knows what he is doing so I am looking forward to getting my car. Also does anyone know what the driveline loss for the Tiptronic cars are vs. the 6 speed?
TT perhaps we can meet up. We can feel the charicteristics of each others cars...Let me know bro.
Vince
Perhaps, he is on to something, want to meet up at EPL? I do expect your car to be faster since you have almost 600whp and I have 535whp. Tony did say that he is giving me a milder tune for now because I would like to play it safe. I want to be able to beat up the car without worrying about the car being in the shop all the time. I trust Tony he really knows what he is doing so I am looking forward to getting my car. Also does anyone know what the driveline loss for the Tiptronic cars are vs. the 6 speed?
TT perhaps we can meet up. We can feel the charicteristics of each others cars...Let me know bro.
Vince
#19
I will be in CT to pick it up this saturday. I have your 70mm exhaust on it
Perhaps, he is on to something, want to meet up at EPL? I do expect your car to be faster since you have almost 600whp and I have 535whp. Tony did say that he is giving me a milder tune for now because I would like to play it safe. I want to be able to beat up the car without worrying about the car being in the shop all the time. I trust Tony he really knows what he is doing so I am looking forward to getting my car. Also does anyone know what the driveline loss for the Tiptronic cars are vs. the 6 speed?
TT perhaps we can meet up. We can feel the charicteristics of each others cars...Let me know bro.
Vince
Perhaps, he is on to something, want to meet up at EPL? I do expect your car to be faster since you have almost 600whp and I have 535whp. Tony did say that he is giving me a milder tune for now because I would like to play it safe. I want to be able to beat up the car without worrying about the car being in the shop all the time. I trust Tony he really knows what he is doing so I am looking forward to getting my car. Also does anyone know what the driveline loss for the Tiptronic cars are vs. the 6 speed?
TT perhaps we can meet up. We can feel the charicteristics of each others cars...Let me know bro.
Vince
You have a PM.
#20
Ok, my money is on the larger injectors with Tip, for a few reasons. The tip will loose less boost between shifts and the injectors will give more power and if it is from a dig, the tip car is easier to launch.
If the K24/18 car had injectors and it was a roll on from 35-40, I might put my money on the K24/18.
The extra fueling is what sets these cars apart right now IMO
If the K24/18 car had injectors and it was a roll on from 35-40, I might put my money on the K24/18.
The extra fueling is what sets these cars apart right now IMO
#24
Either way I think the alpha takes the win.
#25
I will be in CT to pick it up this saturday. I have your 70mm exhaust on it
Perhaps, he is on to something, want to meet up at EPL? I do expect your car to be faster since you have almost 600whp and I have 535whp. Tony did say that he is giving me a milder tune for now because I would like to play it safe. I want to be able to beat up the car without worrying about the car being in the shop all the time. I trust Tony he really knows what he is doing so I am looking forward to getting my car. Also does anyone know what the driveline loss for the Tiptronic cars are vs. the 6 speed?
TT perhaps we can meet up. We can feel the charicteristics of each others cars...Let me know bro.
Vince
Perhaps, he is on to something, want to meet up at EPL? I do expect your car to be faster since you have almost 600whp and I have 535whp. Tony did say that he is giving me a milder tune for now because I would like to play it safe. I want to be able to beat up the car without worrying about the car being in the shop all the time. I trust Tony he really knows what he is doing so I am looking forward to getting my car. Also does anyone know what the driveline loss for the Tiptronic cars are vs. the 6 speed?
TT perhaps we can meet up. We can feel the charicteristics of each others cars...Let me know bro.
Vince
#26
I have never heard of more than 25% loss for an auto trans. I see numbers of 12-15% for manual and 18-20% for auto thrown around a lot. Maybe 25% but never heard of higher than that. If you were having a 35% drivetrain loss, your crank hp would be like 800!
Either way I think the alpha takes the win.
Either way I think the alpha takes the win.
#27
So i guess it depends on the dyno? Also Tony mentioned on his dyno the Tip loss is ~30%
#29
Until i get my 1.2 bar file a good race is being setup between the GT28 Tip car and a k24/18g 6 speed Protomotive car with 5 bar FPR but 1.3 bar race gas.
This will be a fair comparision, Tip has meth+injectors and k24/18g has race gas. In this race my bet is on K24/18g without Injectors. All these races will be from a roll 40 mph or so...when the weather clears up here in the mid week we will have the results.
This will be a fair comparision, Tip has meth+injectors and k24/18g has race gas. In this race my bet is on K24/18g without Injectors. All these races will be from a roll 40 mph or so...when the weather clears up here in the mid week we will have the results.
Last edited by vbmw335; 06-07-2009 at 03:09 PM.