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Race Results: Tial GT28 Tip vs 6 Speed 18g car

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Old 06-18-2009, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Tony@epl
Im sure Ill get flamed for this one, but lets be relistic for a second....I would love to see a race between Vince and BlackHorse, now that woudl be a REAL compare.
I'll bet on BHT any day!
 
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Originally Posted by MY996TT
I'll bet on BHT any day!
That sounds like a challenge!

Road trip for both of you guys.... Meet half way .
 
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Originally Posted by Tony@epl
Vinod- I don't think you can even begin to compare the 2 turbo's based on 1 race between 2 completely different set up cars...

Keep in mind that I have 6 speed k16/16g's runing 6.9-7.0 60-130 (SealGreay). BlackHorses k24/18g tip cars runs 6.89 60-130 @ 1.3 bar of boost.

Using your method of compare k16/16g = k24/18g...

Im sure Ill get flamed for this one, but lets be relistic for a second....I would love to see a race between Vince and BlackHorse, now that woudl be a REAL compare.
Originally Posted by TiALSport
Alpha car is going to murder the other
Tony, I agree. I wasnt comparing 2 turbos here, i know the GT28's are superior and have said that many many times. My response was to the thread started comparing 2 cars and also to tialsport who said that the Gt28 tip car would murder my car. The fact is my car was dead even with the Tip car even at 1 bar. Its pure and simple the tip car has more loss due to transmission.

Also hoping that with your custom 1.3 bar tune and injectors and meth ...i should murder the tip GT28 car...correct??...

To all who are reading this ...this is by no means a Turbo comparision...its apples and oranges here!
 

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Originally Posted by Tony@epl
That sounds like a challenge!

Road trip for both of you guys.... Meet half way .
I edited the message, I knew I'd get the wrong message acrossed. The original message said "I take BHT any day"... I meant between BHT and Vince.
 
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Originally Posted by MY996TT
I edited the message, I knew I'd get the wrong message acrossed. The original message said "I take BHT any day"... I meant between BHT and Vince.
I have to agree here based on the dyno #'s Vince has one of the fastest Tip’s here…I would bet the Alpha car would win.
 
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I really don't think dyno #s means anything. Todd (BHT) is an action guy and I believe he has the fastest Tip. I'll put 5 Franklins on BHT.
 
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Originally Posted by BlackHorseTurbo
Thanks for posting the results. I was interested for sure. I agree that the tip needs more power to make up for the loss thru the tranny. But Im sure you would lose to my car. Have you done a 60-130?
I dont have a vbox yet..your 60-130 is really good, but looking at your dyno #'s , Vince has more power and tq. Not sure how you are so confident that you will beat me?
Also Tony’s mustang dyno reads a lot lower than Dynojet. I agree the best way is to post 60-130 times, these dyno numbers are proving to have bad correlation to street runs due to other factors.
 

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Hey, Vince, how can we make this happen?
 
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Hmmm... Im on the phone with Vince and Im hearing a different story about the whole event .
 
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Originally Posted by MY996TT
I really don't think dyno #s means anything. Todd (BHT) is an action guy and I believe he has the fastest Tip. I'll put 5 Franklins on BHT.
Wonder how much of action is required in a tiptronic racing?? Regardless , he has very respectable #’s and Texas miles time.
 
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Originally Posted by Tony@epl
Hmmm... Im on the phone with Vince and Im hearing a different story about the whole event .
Please post the different story...there is only one story..the cars were dead even . either way slice and dice...we started at 45 and shut off at 140.

I am not the one who wanted to race...
 
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Originally Posted by vbmw335
Wonder how much of action is required in a tiptronic racing?? Regardless , he has very respectable #’s and Texas miles time.
"Action" meaning doing races all the time and not on a Dyno.
 
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Originally Posted by vbmw335
Please post the different story...there is only one story..the cars were dead even . either way slice and dice...we started at 45 and shut off at 140.

I am not the one who wanted to race...
I wont... Ill let Vince say that. Video next time !

Also, I emailed you back about your injector DC. Did you that the graph I sent?
 
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Oh boy...here we go...
 
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Originally Posted by MY996TT
"Action" meaning doing races all the time and not on a Dyno.
i cannot dispute that.
 


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