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Race Results: Tial GT28 Tip vs 6 Speed 18g car

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Old 06-18-2009, 08:34 AM
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you're always supposed to pack the video camera when you go to mexico....
 
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I am curious to see what Vince will say

Tony, I did recieve my duty cycle. Thanks. I will call and discuss with you the next steps.
 
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Originally Posted by vbmw335
I dont have a vbox yet..your 60-130 is really good, but looking at your dyno #'s , Vince has more power and tq. Not sure how you are so confident that you will beat me?
Also Tony’s mustang dyno reads a lot lower than Dynojet. I agree the best way is to post 60-130 times, these dyno numbers are proving to have bad correlation to street runs due to other factors.
I don't really care what each car dyno's. And I don't know what you can do the 60-130 in so I may be premature in my predictions. Try to get a hold of a vbox, because street racing is a horrible barometer.
 
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Old 06-18-2009, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackHorseTurbo
I don't really care what each car dyno's. And I don't know what you can do the 60-130 in so I may be premature in my predictions. Try to get a hold of a vbox, because street racing is a horrible barometer.
I agree. I will try to get my 60-130 soon.
 
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Old 06-18-2009, 09:19 AM
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Okay let me set this straight, We did a pull from around 45 to about 130ish. My car pulled instantly, by the end of the race he was about 1/2-1 car behind me.

We will have to re-race and see the results and record it. Also I think a better comparo would be to do a few pulls some from low speed and others from higher speeds. I really wish I had a K24/18g tip car to race then you can tell what setup is better. The Tip car is known to have more driveline loss and subsequently needs to make more power then a 6-speed. Also VBMW I asked you several times to do more pulls but you declined. The only time you passed me up was when I hit the brakes.

You said, you lost because you mis-shifted and also because you are running a one bar file, I have asked you several times to rematch but you always said no and Now you come on here and say your down to race and that you beat me?
 
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Re-race with video!
 
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1 bar vs 1.3 bar? I am not familiar with Tony's race tune as mine was done by Knighton, but I do know that my car is a completely different animal on race gas and 1.3. The difference in power is absurd. At 1.3 the car is just violent, literally night and day.

If he runs the same boost as you, given the results at 1bar, I would think it would not even be a race. Now if I am missing something here, let me apologize in advance.....but running 1.3bar against a 24/18 car at 1bar is not doing the 28/18 car justice.
 
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you are now talking about 1/2 car...so precise!...as far i can see the cars were dead even at shut off and mine was moving away... Its not even funny when......you are racing a car running pump gas and 1 bar , no injectors...and you are talking about half car lead????..

wasnt the tip car supposed to hold boost better..and meth help?? dont forget you have bigger turbos, injectors and meth and 1.3 bar.

I have no doubt my car at 1.3 bar will destroy the tip car ...no matter what you do. i have not been so confident like this before.

I am running on stock clutch, will not upgrade injectors till my clutch goes to save on labor.

The difference is night and day between 1 bar and 1.3 bar race gas.

I know a proto car with 1.3 bar that will race you...we will video it. My bet is you wont even see him at the finish. I know , i have sat in a epl 1.3 bar car and know what it feels like...and have driven your car as well.

Honestly you should race a tip car...that's more fair.
 

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Now Iam confused. Both sides claiming victory? I guess we will have to have a re-race with vids next time!
 
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No bro, I want to race you. Your the one talking ****.
 
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Originally Posted by $manager
1 bar vs 1.3 bar? I am not familiar with Tony's race tune as mine was done by Knighton, but I do know that my car is a completely different animal on race gas and 1.3. The difference in power is absurd. At 1.3 the car is just violent, literally night and day.

If he runs the same boost as you, given the results at 1bar, I would think it would not even be a race. Now if I am missing something here, let me apologize in advance.....but running 1.3bar against a 24/18 car at 1bar is not doing the 28/18 car justice.
In my personal experience there is a HUGE difference between 1 bar and even 1.1 bar. I've heard that for every .1 bar it is roughly 25-30HP. So going from 1.0 to 1.3 bar will gain roughly 50-75 HP (estimate)

Regardless as the saying goes... "run what you brung"
 
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Originally Posted by MBailey
Now Iam confused. Both sides claiming victory? I guess we will have to have a re-race with vids next time!
I never claimed victory. I said i was dead even inspite of my setup and running agianst a superbly equipped car.
 
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Okay better yet, I will see if Tony can send us his Vbox this weekend and we can log the 60-130 times.
 
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Originally Posted by 007-911
No bro, I want to race you. Your the one talking ****.
Honestly do you even think you stand a chance at 1.3 bar and injectors?..sorry your work must be going bad or something.

I know you know the outcome wont change if we race my 1 bar car. With the stuff you have ,you should be pulling like 5 car lengths at the min. But that's not what happened.

as others have said..at 1.3 bar ..the car adds ton of power. Its not even fair...you should run BHT tip car.

I am not the one who asked for predictions and race of two different setups...i am just posting the results.
 
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Originally Posted by 007-911
Okay better yet, I will see if Tony can send us his Vbox this weekend and we can log the 60-130 times.
Good idea. lets end it there.
 


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