Evospot has a kit with lower compression pistons that gives 500 at the wheels, how is that dissapointing?

 

Owning a Porsche is like that Porsche commercial of a young kid dreaming of owning a Porsche and walking out of the dealership telling the salesperson "see you in about 20years" I truely find owing the Porsche TT is the ultimate experience. I never had this proud ownership feel with my previous M Roadster nor the M6. Driving this car is such a pleasure and just puts a smile on my face everytime. TC

 

I currently own both a 2002 M3 SMG AND a 2003 996TT.

There's no comparison. Stock or modified. Looks are subjective and here in LA, 996TT's are a dime a dozen. I sold a Diablo to get the 996TT.

My M3 has had 4 recalls, a new engine, a new tranny and still has a heater that doesn't work.

I have $57K in mods in my car and gave up on performance long ago. See my car at www.moviecarz.com

My 996TT has been bulletproof, I use to drive it everyday and responds to mods very well.

I've tracked them both, canyon raced them both and daily driven them both.

The M3 holds more and is a tad more comfortable, but I find myself reaching for the 996TT keys more often than not.


If you have the means, forget the M3....

 

Craig....you have a 996TT from the year 2203? (check ur sig )

-Awais

 

It's like NIGHT and DAY.....dog!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I will soon be moving over to a TT or GT3 from an M3 as well. Either way, around here, both TT and M3 are really a dime a dozen and nobody knows what a GT3 is anyways. But I am not really into cars to show off.

Coming from several heavily modded RX7s, I can tell you at least for me, reliable preformance is what it's all about. The last Rx7 was a very significant piece of driving equipment at 2800lb. But I am not willing to live with $10,000 repairs ever again.

A warranty is even better.

I too am very smitten with the M3s 8000 rpm redline and would hate to give that up, the real question is modded TT or GT3?

The modded TT would handily out accelelarate a GT3 but with a significant handling penalty.

Also, the lack of traction control in the GT3 seems crazy to me. There is no excuse for the lack of a traction control system in a street car. I started a pretty big thread about this a few weeks ago and the responses weren't very convincing. A FULLY Defeatable skid control system is a very important safety net on the street. Driving fast is one thing, but activating a Porsche skid control (which is very lenient) on the street means you are driving too hard for the safety of others.

I am leaning modded TT right now.

One question, do you think that a GT3 will be just as significant in 10 years?

 

I think every GT3 will be collectable if well taken care of and left mostly stock. No one will want to collect modded TTs.

 

Get the best of both worlds....buy an M3 and turbo it.

 

I am also looking at going from an M3 to a TT (Once I find one). A buddy of mine who works at a dealership let me test drive one for 1/2 a day.

The TT is on another level all around. As much as I love my M3, I can't wait till I get my TT...

 

Porsche assumes that if you buy a GT3, you know how to drive. On the current market, there is no fully defeatable skid control system. It is always partially on.

A GT3 will always be significant. It is one of the purest expressions of the 911 concept.

A properly driven GT3 will likely spank most of the modded TT's around the canyons or the track.

Seeing as how you feel the need for PSM, perhaps the TT is the better choice for you.

 

As a former M3 driver, may I humbly suggest that you take some DE and learn to drive without the electronic Nanny's?

The E46 M3 was so easy to drive sideways in a very controlled mannger with the DSC off. I never drove with it on the entire time that I owned it. I got into the car, I turned on the car, I turned DSC off, I drove the car. Ironically, it was wrecked by some kid at the dealer who turned off DSC and had no clue how to handle a RWD car, off he went to the curb and snapped the control arm clean off along with the driver rear wheel.

Like some people here said, when you buy a GT3, PAG assumes that you know how to drive. And really, oversteer is quite fun, unless you really have no idea of any RWD car control. In which case, GT3 is probably not the car for you.

And yes, I also turn off PSM before I drive each and every time. Take some DE's, it's not that difficult. And please save it with the "driving too hard on the street." I hardly consider driving sideways at 25mph in the rain through turns hard driving, but it sure is fun.

 

I am still slower in my Turbo on the track than when I had the M3. The M3, even with DSC off, was just so stupidly easy to drive fast on the track. You can go in too hot, lift, do any boneheaded moves on the track, and the car will make you come out looking a million bucks.

Good luck trying to do the same things in the Turbo with PSM off on the track.

I am slowly getting my speed back in the Turbo. I'll be at Sears Point next weekend with it, hopefully I'll be faster this time than my last Sears Point excerusion with the Turbo in March of this year.

 

There is no lag, the stock setup is pretty smooth.

The M3 also has a lag, the pre 4000rpm feel versus the post 4000rpm feel.

If you think that you'll miss the high revving motor, get a GT3. I wanted a change from the high revving driving style, and got a Turbo instead.

 

Of all the mods, none is more effective than DE's.

An A or B DE guy in an M3 can easily spank a guy in a Turbo with no DE experience in everything except straight out drag racing. Easily.

 

1. The M3 is a nice car, but it's no Turbo. Put it this way, if I couldn't afford a P car with a proper motor (M64), I would have gotten another M3 when the dealer wrecked it on a joyride.

2. The M3 is not that much cheaper to maintain, what with the $12/quart 10/60 oil, the SMG module that will cost an arm and a leg out of warranty, and misc. fits and finish issues that will nicke and dime you to death out of warranty. I have been to 6 DE's with my Turbo this year, and the thing so far has been bullet proof. My M3 after 6 DE's needed:

a. New Guibo.
b. New drive shaft.
c. Potentiometer for the DBW throttle.
d. Stupid window modling repalced twice.
d. Head gasket guide bolt replaced twice.
e. The motor itself blew up at Button Willow.
f. Steering rack replaced.
g. 2.5 sets of rotors and pads.


The Turbo after 6 DE's needed:

a. Fuel hose clamp inside the fuel tank.

3. It's easy to mod the Turbo, obviously. But properly modding the Turbo also cost big $$$.

4. Equally good. I won't take my Turbo to anywhere that I didn't feel comfortable taking the M3. I don't care about ride quality, so I can't really comment. Though I didn't feel a whole lot of difference between the two on crapy Santa Monica Blvd.

I do miss the SMG on the M3. I have a 6 speed, because I can't stand torque convertors. But the Turbo stock shifter really is pretty sorry.