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Old 07-27-2009, 12:58 PM
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If TiAL or EPL wants to donate a set for testing purposes I will test out the A28s this winter in the cold weather. The runs would be done at 1.5-1.6+bar. They wouldn't stay on for long because I wouldn't give up the sweet 3076 goodness.
 
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what is the hotside on the gt28s fron tial... I ask because that to is more important then the cold side...
 
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Originally Posted by MARKSKI
what is the hotside on the gt28s fron tial... I ask because that to is more important then the cold side...
I think it's part of their trade secret. It's what makes their products theirs. I'm sure someone could probably get a set and figure it out, but whats the point. Copying someone else's product is probably the ****tiest thing to do in this industry.

What we really want to know is what turbos is Bobby working with right now that let him do 146mph on a stock bottom end at 1.5bar. I maybe swapping to a A3076, but if these is some miracle turbo out there I would be all ears for it. Or is it a mixture of a good turbo, less weight and a few other tricks that let him go that fast.
 
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Alright guys. No one is allowed in my car anymore unless you range from 150-180 lbs You should not have any meals in your stomach from 12am to 8am, rules are rules.

Originally Posted by KPG
250 lbs is a HUGE penalty....Actually Art, in the spirit of keeping you slow, if 250 lbs is good, then 500 is better!!!
 
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It's not the car, it's the weight of the driver

Originally Posted by Powell
I think it's part of their trade secret. It's what makes their products theirs. I'm sure someone could probably get a set and figure it out, but whats the point. Copying someone else's product is probably the ****tiest thing to do in this industry.

What we really want to know is what turbos is Bobby working with right now that let him do 146mph on a stock bottom end at 1.5bar. I maybe swapping to a A3076, but if these is some miracle turbo out there I would be all ears for it. Or is it a mixture of a good turbo, less weight and a few other tricks that let him go that fast.
 
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Originally Posted by Powell

What we really want to know is what turbos is Bobby working with right now that let him do 146mph on a stock bottom end at 1.5bar. I maybe swapping to a A3076, but if these is some miracle turbo out there I would be all ears for it. Or is it a mixture of a good turbo, less weight and a few other tricks that let him go that fast.
you talking about bobby from tulsa?
 
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Originally Posted by vbmw335
Art, The only A28 performance info i have is Vince did some qtr mile and 60-130 on his tiptronic car. His Trap was 130mph and best 60-130 so far is high 7 sec range.

His car made 535 awhp mustang dyno at 1.4 bar with meth injection. Now a 6 speed car is making significantly more power and tq.
Vinod...

Vince's car was not running 1.4 bar last time it was at the track.
 
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Originally Posted by MARKSKI
you talking about bobby from tulsa?
Yup, the man that's helped build some of the baddest 996's out there. I know his GT2 went some crazy mph, and I'm interested in seeing what you all have been working on before I spend more money on something else.
 
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Originally Posted by Tony@epl
Vinod...


Vince's car was not running 1.4 bar last time it was at the track.
That's correct. But i am puzzled...

When i raced him the first time with bad ECU 1.4 bar ...the results are same - Dead even

I raced him at 1.2 bar (new ECU) results are the same ...this is when he was at the track - Dead Even

I raced him yesterday with 1.3 bar (wastegates adjusted)...the results are the same. - Dead Even

My Point is his car hasnt gotten faster with higher boost.Maybe his car is pulling timing?? is it expected to be significantly faster than 130 trap?
 

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Originally Posted by Powell
Yup, the man that's helped build some of the baddest 996's out there. I know his GT2 went some crazy mph, and I'm interested in seeing what you all have been working on before I spend more money on something else.
I have pics... lol
 
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So do i LOL , here powell .
 
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What was the AFR on dyno?

Originally Posted by vbmw335
When i raced him the first time with bad ECU 1.4 bar ...the results are same - Dead even

I raced him at 1.2 bar (new ECU) results are the same ...this is when he was at the track - Dead Even

I raced him yesterday with 1.3 bar (wastegates adjusted)...the results are the same. - Dead Even


My Point is his car hasnt gotten faster with higher boost.Maybe his car is pulling timing??
 
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Originally Posted by unvmym3
So do i LOL , here powell .
Looks pretty nice. That exhaust side looks pretty big compared to your standard GT3076 with a .63 A/R. Sean's (Dr. Jitsu) looked really small when I saw them when he was getting them installed. I'm waiting to hear some numbers, if they are anything like Bobby's they should be really impressive. I know Justin N. was messing around with a different set of turbos also and his setup looks really promising also, but he is using a standalone that he setup himself and tuned himself.

Also really like those intercoolers, gotta be way better than my Blown****ties!
 
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those are bobbys turbos , and they dwarf seans 3076's, shes up and running just working on breaking turbos in and some other little tweaks , ill keep evryone posted .

yeah those ic's are about two blown6s put togther , but you know for the money you realy cant beat blown 6's they work awesome i realy liked mine.
 
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the cores are made by whom?

Originally Posted by unvmym3
those are bobbys turbos , and they dwarf seans 3076's, shes up and running just working on breaking turbos in and some other little tweaks , ill keep evryone posted .

yeah those ic's are about two blown6s put togther , but you know for the money you realy cant beat blown 6's they work awesome i realy liked mine.
 


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