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Now she can breathe: New IC piping PICs

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Old 08-08-2009 | 01:25 PM
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I couldn't find these on the Vivid site. Dan, what is the pricing?

Also, regarding the aluminum inlet transmitting heat...this is true, but the OEM setup is also aluminum. I think it is a small issue since this is pre-turbo. When the air next goes to the turbos it becomes super heated, then cooled in the ICs, then goes through the aluminum Y-pipe which is also heat soaked and has more surface area. So a CF or other insulted inlet would help prevent some heat exposure but the advantage is lost at the y-pipe.
Insulating all of the aluminum sections of pipe would be best. Using something like aluminum tape with foam backing would be cheap and effective (but ugly).
 
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Old 08-08-2009 | 01:38 PM
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I saw a bear use a toilet 1 time. Awkward trying to fit his **** in the hole...

CJV - yeah carbon would be nice, I dont think the market would pay the cost though it would take to make it.
I am sure you have a very valid point there.

I had both the metal and hose parts designed and made out of CF several years ago. Funny thing was after seeing the part Porsche requested a copy from me. The costs at the time were somewhere just under $3,000.00.
 
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Todd, you are not f*&kin around here! You're joining the meth lab camp too? I like it....
 
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Old 08-08-2009 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by roadsterdoc
I couldn't find these on the Vivid site. Dan, what is the pricing?

Also, regarding the aluminum inlet transmitting heat...this is true, but the OEM setup is also aluminum. I think it is a small issue since this is pre-turbo. When the air next goes to the turbos it becomes super heated, then cooled in the ICs, then goes through the aluminum Y-pipe which is also heat soaked and has more surface area. So a CF or other insulted inlet would help prevent some heat exposure but the advantage is lost at the y-pipe.
Insulating all of the aluminum sections of pipe would be best. Using something like aluminum tape with foam backing would be cheap and effective (but ugly).
Heat is heat. Heat gain is additive- air has the capacity to absorb heat in quantums, so eliminating heat gain anywhere will be a benefit- before the compressor, after the compressor, pre or post intercooler... if heat gain pre-turbo isn't an issue, why all the noise about cold air intakes, etc?

As to "the oem is aluminum"... it may be, but the whole idea of arftermarket parts is to do better than oem.

As to 'will the market bear it' for metal versus CF, it is a trade off for sales volume over absolute performance... old story.

It looks like the fitment may be pinching or rubbing the hoses on the right side (far side on the 4th (?) picture- could be the angle too.

Agree that insulation will help, but once the aluminum parts soak in the heat, it will take more airflow to cool them- CF just doesn't have the thermal mass that metal does.
 
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Old 08-10-2009 | 10:44 AM
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RoadsterDoc - sorry not available yet. If BHT has luck, they will go into production and be around $1500.
 
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I started a new thread on this topic here. https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ml#post2507488
 
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Just started the prototyping process again on these. Have the new reinforced silicone that fits on the 6spd and just made a new aluminum piece. Results and production coming soon

 
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Keep this thread updated,Dan...
 
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Will do!
 
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any guess on price point?
 
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$1500. You can get a Prototype kit for testing if you want. PM me.
 
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Originally Posted by vividracing
Wish I had them done when I did my car. They will flow much better then one I had

Todd,

The corregated Home Depot hoses are so old school that you get cool points. 200 mph is getting closer for you now.
 
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Think its ready for some more market testers now





 
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Originally Posted by WOODTSTER
Todd,

The corregated Home Depot hoses are so old school that you get cool points. 200 mph is getting closer for you now.

Marty,

Crap, I guess I still suck because this is Dan's old motor.
 
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Here are some shots of the piping on my car as we were test fitting it..





 


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