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Old 08-24-2009, 02:39 PM
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Ruf R turbo vs GT700

How would I (GT700) stack up against a Ruf 550 power conversion. Some employee's at RUF were telling my friend that it could destroy my car.


The reason they gave was that the 550 power conversion delivered more torque??

I've did some really hard pulls against some really fast cars, please tell me this is just a sales pitch.
 
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Old 08-24-2009, 02:46 PM
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It's a sales pitch. You'd *****-slap a 550.
 
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It's a sales pitch. You'd *****-slap a 550.
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That really is a rediculous claim. But you should take them up on it and race the Ruf!
 
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Who did you talk to? Were these the guys at Ruf Auto Centre in TX? They have been honest with me.

I had a modified AWE 997 Turbo, with chip, intercoolers, upgraded turbos, etc, and my current car is much, much faster. One thing about Alois Ruf - he has always lied about his horsepower and torque figures (in a good way). My current RTurbo has much more horsepower than advertised, and the torque pulls right from the beginning and is steady throughout.

The RTurbo has Ruf's choice of balanced and blueprinted 911 Turbo engine, Ruf transmission and shifter, Ruf upgraded turbos and camshafts, rear and front spoilers, etc. It also has the integrated rollcage, and feels like "riding on rails." The engine is unlike any of the previous 15 911s I own or have owned - it is liked someone polished it with a toothbrush. It also has Brembo 8 piston GTR brakes, front and rear.

But I am biased. Although I suspect my car will be around longer than the aftermarket-modded Porsche turbos.
 
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GT700 will walk the $hit out of a Rturbo
 
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Oh yes, one other thing. The top speed of my car, tested at Nardo, was 215 mph. Anytime you want to race, let me know. But it has to be on a road course, not those silly 1/4 mile runs.

Also - see this YouTube video at the 'Ring', with Stefan Roser at the wheel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mJ69BaBlZM
 
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If the issue here is who's faster, I think you can walk the Ruf with only 1.1 bar.
 
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Originally Posted by 911TurboS2
Oh yes, one other thing. The top speed of my car, tested at Nardo, was 215 mph. Anytime you want to race, let me know. But it has to be on a road course, not those silly 1/4 mile runs.
You mean those silly 1/4 mile runs where you would get your *** handed to you? I'm glad you like your car, but it's apparent you don't know what a fast car is.
 

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Silly 1/4 mile runs?? Who is this guy? Sorry to say my friend but your car will not even reach 180mph in a standing mile
 
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That had to be the best trip around the Ring that I've ever seen. Thanks
 
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i think when RUF says 550HP or 650HP its on the wheels not the crank, so i guess that 550HP is like around 680HP on the crank, maybe.
 
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Originally Posted by GTDeux
It depends on what "fast" means.

A 997 GT3-RSR is "slow" in quarter mile runs, but I assure you it could beat almost any modified 1000hp 996TT on a road course.
Stop playing the semantics game.

Based off of the OP's question, he means in a straight line race...which is what most people refer to when they say "fast". I, along with most people, consider a "fast" car to be one that runs very quickly in a straight line. I consider a car that goes around a road course quickly, but not all that great in a straight line... to be a great handling car. Lotus Elise's handle extremely well, but they are certainly not "fast" cars.

Not to mention a 1000hp TT would probably overheat after 1 lap on the Nurburgring.
And you know this how? Are you basing this on factual evidence that "1,000 hp" TT's are prone to overheating issues on 14 mile courses? Have you ever owned or even driven a 1,000 HP TT? Or are you simply talking out of your ***?

I'm confident it's the latter.
 

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Originally Posted by jalmood
i think when RUF says 550HP or 650HP its on the wheels not the crank, so i guess that 550HP is like around 680HP on the crank, maybe.
No, it's at the crank.
 
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Originally Posted by 911TurboS2
Slick858-

Who did you talk to? Were these the guys at Ruf Auto Centre in TX? They have been honest with me.

I had a modified AWE 997 Turbo, with chip, intercoolers, upgraded turbos, etc, and my current car is much, much faster. One thing about Alois Ruf - he has always lied about his horsepower and torque figures (in a good way). My current RTurbo has much more horsepower than advertised, and the torque pulls right from the beginning and is steady throughout.

The RTurbo has Ruf's choice of balanced and blueprinted 911 Turbo engine, Ruf transmission and shifter, Ruf upgraded turbos and camshafts, rear and front spoilers, etc. It also has the integrated rollcage, and feels like "riding on rails." The engine is unlike any of the previous 15 911s I own or have owned - it is liked someone polished it with a toothbrush. It also has Brembo 8 piston GTR brakes, front and rear.

But I am biased. Although I suspect my car will be around longer than the aftermarket-modded Porsche turbos.
Hey i see your in DC, i will meet you half way in baltimore since im in PA and we can line them up .. what do you say ??ill be glad to wager on this also as much as you want .. we can do a 60 to130 run or whatever you wish ...
 
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Look at the table from Rennlist.
R550 is there.
The closest to a GT700 is Eclou's AWE 700.
The Ruf runs a 7.2s 100-200 Km/hr and the AWE 700 runs 6.0s. We have some GT700s on the board that have run low 5s 100-200s.
 
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