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#46
12-23-2009 | 11:22 AM
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To me, the problem isn't the product or brand itself. It's if and when a quality control issue comes up, will the vendor help you? Will the vendor even be able to help you even if they wanted to? How can a vendor replace a (hypothetically speaking) defective wheel if they have no stock to replace it with and the distributor and/or manufacturer is non-responsive? At which point, the distributor/manufacturer typically shoulders the responsibility to set the issue straight. In this regard, Forged DST seems to be lacking.
I'm also in the market for wheels. Things like quality customer service, quick response time, effective and direct communication, and assurance that my concerns will be heard and acted on if/when they occur are reasons why I can justify paying a premium for purchasing new, higher end wheels. These are not qualities I'm seeing from Forged DST... my $.02
Anyway, glad that you (and presumably others) are happy with your purchase. Their designs look fantastic! But as a prospective customer, I'm inclined to go elsewhere until Forged DST shows appropriate follow through. Until then, we're lucky to be able to shop other options.
1badgt2, sorry to hear about your situation. Please keep us updated!
I'm also in the market for wheels. Things like quality customer service, quick response time, effective and direct communication, and assurance that my concerns will be heard and acted on if/when they occur are reasons why I can justify paying a premium for purchasing new, higher end wheels. These are not qualities I'm seeing from Forged DST... my $.02
Anyway, glad that you (and presumably others) are happy with your purchase. Their designs look fantastic! But as a prospective customer, I'm inclined to go elsewhere until Forged DST shows appropriate follow through. Until then, we're lucky to be able to shop other options.
1badgt2, sorry to hear about your situation. Please keep us updated!
However, I want to be VERY clear...I am not trying to be a whiner...it is not in my character to do so. And, as you can see from my project car, money is not my issue. However, I get very irritated when people take advantage of others, and I feel I have been taken advantage of. I also do not mean to be causing so much trouble on this thread or forum, but I think it is important for others to be aware of bad...or certainly questionable...situations. As for me sending a PM to these guys...I ask why?...I have already spent a year dealing with "Jordan"...or whatever your name is. If you want to help me, then state on this forum publicly what you wish to do. Let EVERYONE know your intentions so that we can ALL be aware of your business practices and allow you to clear the name. If you are not interested in making your intentions public, then I have no use for your company or your money. This is strictly about principle and how you should treat other people...nothing else. I am sure that no matter what level our membership is at economically...we all earn our money. None of us, wealthy or otherwise, are interested in spending it on poorly run businesses who show poor service and lack integrity.
Happy holidays to all of the forum members and I personally wish you a very SAFE holiday for you and your families.
#48
12-24-2009 | 04:38 PM
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Guys, thanks for all of your support!!!!
However, I want to be VERY clear...I am not trying to be a whiner...it is not in my character to do so. And, as you can see from my project car, money is not my issue. However, I get very irritated when people take advantage of others, and I feel I have been taken advantage of. I also do not mean to be causing so much trouble on this thread or forum, but I think it is important for others to be aware of bad...or certainly questionable...situations. As for me sending a PM to these guys...I ask why?...I have already spent a year dealing with "Jordan"...or whatever your name is. If you want to help me, then state on this forum publicly what you wish to do. Let EVERYONE know your intentions so that we can ALL be aware of your business practices and allow you to clear the name. If you are not interested in making your intentions public, then I have no use for your company or your money. This is strictly about principle and how you should treat other people...nothing else. I am sure that no matter what level our membership is at economically...we all earn our money. None of us, wealthy or otherwise, are interested in spending it on poorly run businesses who show poor service and lack integrity.
Happy holidays to all of the forum members and I personally wish you a very SAFE holiday for you and your families.
However, I want to be VERY clear...I am not trying to be a whiner...it is not in my character to do so. And, as you can see from my project car, money is not my issue. However, I get very irritated when people take advantage of others, and I feel I have been taken advantage of. I also do not mean to be causing so much trouble on this thread or forum, but I think it is important for others to be aware of bad...or certainly questionable...situations. As for me sending a PM to these guys...I ask why?...I have already spent a year dealing with "Jordan"...or whatever your name is. If you want to help me, then state on this forum publicly what you wish to do. Let EVERYONE know your intentions so that we can ALL be aware of your business practices and allow you to clear the name. If you are not interested in making your intentions public, then I have no use for your company or your money. This is strictly about principle and how you should treat other people...nothing else. I am sure that no matter what level our membership is at economically...we all earn our money. None of us, wealthy or otherwise, are interested in spending it on poorly run businesses who show poor service and lack integrity.
Happy holidays to all of the forum members and I personally wish you a very SAFE holiday for you and your families.
I think they stole your wheels and charged you for the service.
Unfortunately, it is considered a civil dispute and not criminal. That means you need to sue and the Po-lice won't do a thing about it.
Judging by their business practices I would not expect them to use the grade material required for our cars. These wheels might work well on a Corvette but not on a Porsche with 1.25 latteral Gs cornering abilities.
Ask me how I know.
I stick to HRE and other known established brands now. I have never broken an HRE product while cornering. The count is TWO broken wheels for lower tier products.
#50
12-27-2009 | 09:52 AM
hey guys,
been out this week and mike has been doing the best he can to cover for me. i will address everyones concerns. alain
been out this week and mike has been doing the best he can to cover for me. i will address everyones concerns. alain
#51
12-27-2009 | 09:59 AM
There was a thread on this board that followed how DST was making good for 360's promises, but activity just died there. I'm very interested to hear what happened with the specific guys in the thread, and several questions that went unanswered from it. The most important, I guess, is what overlap in people and liabilities between these two companies exists. I think Chuck was involved with the last thread, and can maybe shed some light. I hope that all of these problems have been worked out, as they were never accused of designing an ugly product. Unfortunately, that's just part of the process in getting something perfect to a customer.
#52
12-27-2009 | 10:05 AM
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To those considering anything from 360 Forged, over a year ago I sent Jordan my BBS Racing centerlocks wheels as well as a 3500 dollar deposit. They never delivered my wheels, never returned my BBS wheels, and never returned my 3500 dollar deposit. As far as I am concerned, they stole my money and my wheels. I certainly would not trust the quality of their work if this is how they treat a customer.
#53
12-27-2009 | 10:07 AM
No, I'm simply upset with what happened to 1badGT. It's apparent you are trying to put as much distance between yourself and the "previous" company as possible but are apparently selling some of the same goods? What's the story? Frankly after what happened to him there's no way I'd touch anything you guys have simply because it's waaay too easy to claim change of ownership and keep right on doing business. What assurances can you possibly provide that this wouldn't happen again? What's the story?
#55
12-27-2009 | 10:13 AM
As an affected customer, is there anything you can...or want to do...to assist me in correcting my problem. Did you purchase the rights to 360 Forged and did that include any of their product? Might you know where my BBS centerlocks might be? They are not a very common wheel, plus mine were powder coated in a charcoal color. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. I would assume if you know 360 Forged, then you must have known of this "Jordan character". Thank you.
i want to be very clear and need everyone to understand, we are not 360 forged. we've assumed the product line and now offer the wheels. we have not taken anyone's money or wheels. as of 5 months ago we publicly stated that we would resolve any open issues. as most of you know we did as promised. we reinvested a lot of money to get 360 forged back up to date. this just happens to be something that has not been brought to our attention. alain
#56
12-27-2009 | 10:20 AM
Not to highjack the tread, but I recently purchased some 360 forged wheels from Jon at Wheel Boutique who really hooked it up with a great price, product and service. The brand is alive folks, as my 360 forged straight 5 wheels look flawless on my CLS55...If Forged DST does own the 360 brand, then that means WB went through them to get the wheels and therefore they delivered on time as promised, unless wheels boutique makes the wheels in house...but again i doubt they make 360 in their back room.
#57
12-27-2009 | 10:23 AM
we've never said we would not resolve the problem. i assure you there is not 1 single employee from the previous staff here with us. anyone is more than welcome to stop by our shop for confirmation.
#58
12-27-2009 | 10:28 AM
Is it okay to link to another IB car forum? Forged DST is a sponsor there as well, and it should help clear up some of the history. If not, mods please advise.
http://www.mbworld.org/forums/w211-a...ed-update.html
and
http://www.mbworld.org/forums/w211-a...orged-dst.html
http://www.mbworld.org/forums/w211-a...ed-update.html
and
http://www.mbworld.org/forums/w211-a...orged-dst.html
#59
12-27-2009 | 10:33 AM
so there you have it Jordan was you partner in crime ! Yet you act like you dont know him , reffering to him at that "jordan character" and i quote
""This is true, Jordan and I were the 2 original investors and owners of 360 Forged. Shortly after it's launch Jordan bought me out and I started Modular Concept. When the company started to have backorder issues I felt it necessary to step in with Jordan's consent in order to help the situation. Jordan is a legitimate business man despite all of the rumors and allegations that have spread throughout the internet. Most of the personal attacks against him were brought on by several individuals who we know personally who have tried to bring the company down for their own benefit. The issues that he's faced were out of his control and he did the best he could to fix the problems. He is still involved with the company, however only responsible for product development and design.
More lies ? which is it ? why are you giving 1bad gt2 the runaround ?
""This is true, Jordan and I were the 2 original investors and owners of 360 Forged. Shortly after it's launch Jordan bought me out and I started Modular Concept. When the company started to have backorder issues I felt it necessary to step in with Jordan's consent in order to help the situation. Jordan is a legitimate business man despite all of the rumors and allegations that have spread throughout the internet. Most of the personal attacks against him were brought on by several individuals who we know personally who have tried to bring the company down for their own benefit. The issues that he's faced were out of his control and he did the best he could to fix the problems. He is still involved with the company, however only responsible for product development and design.
More lies ? which is it ? why are you giving 1bad gt2 the runaround ?
#60
12-27-2009 | 10:36 AM
It's also fishy that at MB forum, Forged DST claims his name is Alain who now owns and runs the company. He says Jordan is still involved in their company. And now, we have "Mike" here using Forged DST as their username claiming they can't do much about this "Jordan character".. LOOK OUT!! He's behind you!!
All kidding aside, if 360 Forged or whatever the company that took over them is all business like they claim to be, they shouldn't have this much problems all over several forums.
All kidding aside, if 360 Forged or whatever the company that took over them is all business like they claim to be, they shouldn't have this much problems all over several forums.