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Old 01-15-2010, 12:27 PM
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I had the 750s an 850s in my car never had a problem. Granted it's on 3.8 fpr. I recall you saying that before however I was wrong when I said siemens/genesis... I mean Genesis 850 and 750cc have absolutely no issues... When continental took over Siemens injector division there was a lot of confusion... However, the 850 ss I am talking about are not siemens.. they are Genesis...

Originally Posted by Tony@epl
Just so you are aware, those injectors are no longer rated at 4 bar operating pressure. I wouldn't recommend running them at anything other then 3 bar.

We have seen multiple failures running them at pressure higher then 3.8, 4, and 5 bar.

The division of Siemens that made those injectors was bought out by continental and quality took a big hit at the same time.

This is the main reason we discontinued the use of this injector.
 
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Something like this would be a nice option. If anyone has a spare OEM assembly lying around Pm me.

 

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more info who makes it whats it hold n whats it fit n how much?
 
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more info who makes it whats it hold n whats it fit n how much?
Hop on the Supra forums, their are a few companies that make them. I am talking to them now about making them for the 996TT
 
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Originally Posted by MARKSKI@911tuning
I had the 750s an 850s in my car never had a problem. Granted it's on 3.8 fpr. I recall you saying that before however I was wrong when I said siemens/genesis... I mean Genesis 850 and 750cc have absolutely no issues... When continental took over Siemens injector division there was a lot of confusion... However, the 850 ss I am talking about are not siemens.. they are Genesis...
The genesis 750 and 850 are Siemens injectors. We have seen the same issues with these as well.
 
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Originally Posted by Kevin
We will soon see a in-rush or failures with new Siemen injectors. The injector seat is getting hammered out. The metal is too soft. The reported failures range from minor plug fouling to entire hydrolocked cylinders..
We finally agree on something .
 
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The genesis 750 and 850 are Siemens injectors. We have seen the same issues with these as well.

Tony, the 83# injectors that you just sold me are they prone to failures? thanks Greg
 
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Originally Posted by Tony@epl
The genesis 750 and 850 are Siemens injectors. We have seen the same issues with these as well.
I don't want to argue but Scott said they are not.
Either way I Bobby or Todd hve not had any issues and between all 3 of us There have been many injectors used.
I am not saying no to what your saying just repeating hat the vendor said along with out experience.

edit: the cores are only siemens
 
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Originally Posted by OS Inspector
more info who makes it whats it hold n whats it fit n how much?
Holds 3x Walbro 255HPs I will bet. The Supra guys run multiple pumps pretty often as the stock pump sucks lots of power and doesn't flow all that great and a single Walbro ain't enough! When you go with multiple pumps do NOT forget that power is a big issue - many pumps drop significant flow if they are not getting enough juice. I went so far as to put a high amp alternator in my Supra just to be sure!
 
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I have been using Siemens since its build in 2007 and fingers crossed no problems as of yet. We have pushed my car extremely hard and have reached 39.46 pounds of boost with out any problems except running out of fuel and spark. Just my two cents.
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Originally Posted by BLKMGK
Holds 3x Walbro 255HPs I will bet. The Supra guys run multiple pumps pretty often as the stock pump sucks lots of power and doesn't flow all that great and a single Walbro ain't enough! When you go with multiple pumps do NOT forget that power is a big issue - many pumps drop significant flow if they are not getting enough juice. I went so far as to put a high amp alternator in my Supra just to be sure!
sweet, i was thinking about getting a dual squeeze bubble pump setup n hire a cute asian girl to keep the pressure up but electric pumps might be more reliable
 
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sweet, i was thinking about getting a dual squeeze bubble pump setup n hire a cute asian girl to keep the pressure up but electric pumps might be more reliable
 
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sweet, i was thinking about getting a dual squeeze bubble pump setup n hire a cute asian girl to keep the pressure up but electric pumps might be more reliable
Interesting happy ending.........
 
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Interesting...
 
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