Anyone See This? This is RIP Ben right?
#2
Yeah, that's him. I'm not very happy with the results of the Lawsuit. Ben was such a great contributor to this site. RIP Ben, I hope you're still driving the wheels off that CGT up in the clouds.
#4
I couldn't agree more. While I agree that both Corey and Ben died tragically I'm not sure how accountable Ben was for Corey's death. Truth be told if it were anyone else the occupants of the Ferrari may have been killed as well. I hope Charlotte and Parker are well and can finally close this Chapter in their lives.
#5
So is the moral of the story run a credit report on your friends before you go racing??? Is the 4.5 million (really only 2 million she might see)going to bring him back??I guess the waivers were all for s#it???
Yes it is sad but where does it stop??
Yes it is sad but where does it stop??
#6
We live in a society of sue for this and that. Ben was giving Corey a ride in his car. so his estate got sued, why was he forced to get in his car.. I find that really ridiculous. It could happen to anyone any passenger who gets in a car at there own will and gets in an accident should not be allowed to sue the driver especially when it is not his fault. lawyers will go any direction there is money to be had.
My personal experience I was once giving my mom a ride to work and a jackass tried to beat a traffic light. he hits my car my mom gets hurt. guess what the lawyers say I have more coverage than the other guy so it is better for my mom to sue me. what happened to ethics I guess it is not taught in law school........ my 02 cents.
My personal experience I was once giving my mom a ride to work and a jackass tried to beat a traffic light. he hits my car my mom gets hurt. guess what the lawyers say I have more coverage than the other guy so it is better for my mom to sue me. what happened to ethics I guess it is not taught in law school........ my 02 cents.
#7
The irony is that Corey, from what I have read, had made more than enough family for his family to live comfortably for a long time to come. I don't think the extra couple of million is going to make Corey rise from the dead.
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#9
On a serious note, though, that lawsuit stinks. That's what life insurance is for. I can understand the widow's grief, but I just can't stand greed
RIP to two Porsche and car enthusiasts
#10
I couldn't agree more. While I agree that both Corey and Ben died tragically I'm not sure how accountable Ben was for Corey's death. Truth be told if it were anyone else the occupants of the Ferrari may have been killed as well. I hope Charlotte and Parker are well and can finally close this Chapter in their lives.
It seems Ben's family needs to sure the track and organizers for wrongful death as well. If the other driver would not have been waived on to the track, all would have been well. That is why we have track officials, no?
RIP Ben.
#12
It seems Bens family have suffered a tragic loss
Yes, both families have had to deal with bereavement and that is sad but At what point does it become acceptable to steal millions from a grieving widow and her family?
I'm not sure about America, but in the UK we have a word for people like that
My thoughts are with Bens family
Yes, both families have had to deal with bereavement and that is sad but At what point does it become acceptable to steal millions from a grieving widow and her family?
I'm not sure about America, but in the UK we have a word for people like that
My thoughts are with Bens family
#14
Now, before I make my comments... I'm not CONDONING what happened... OK... Before you guys rip me appart, re-read, and then come back to this first statement, MKay?
Anytime you go and "hop in" a buddies car at the track, that liability form you sign is doing nothing to protect you, or his family from what someone else may have done. Those track waivers are beat day in and day out in court...ARD can jump in on this at any point to provide the bonafides.
Now, Again, your family is tucked safe at home while you make a decision that puts you at risk, and is a decision you may or may not have made had they been there to consult and weigh in on... You jump in your buddie's car, and hey he is skilled *(and he clearly was and this clearly wasn't his fault) and nothing like this ever happens...And then it does.
Corey died. His family lost him, just like Ben's family lost him. The reason that Corey's family won in court is that simply put, Corey was along for the ride. At the end of the day, regardless how they ended up against the barriers, one thing can NOT be disputed... Corey was a passenger and had zero control. He would have been the ultimate victim in the eyes of most courts. I know what you're thinking, nobody forced him to jump in the car and go for the ride along. It was his choice and he wanted to be there... But he can't defend his choices now. It's up to his family and it's certainly their right in our country. Their loss of him was huge to them.
I have never lost someone so close to me. I can not say what is right or wrong for that family and I do feel that it is wrong for us to pass judgement on them. Until you've walked in those shoes, I don't honestly know how you can say what you might or might not do.
This case is a solid reminder to all of us, passenger or driver at track day events... The big one CAN and WILL happen. 5/10ths is what they teach in most of the groups I run with, for instructor ride-alongs.
Mike
Anytime you go and "hop in" a buddies car at the track, that liability form you sign is doing nothing to protect you, or his family from what someone else may have done. Those track waivers are beat day in and day out in court...ARD can jump in on this at any point to provide the bonafides.
Now, Again, your family is tucked safe at home while you make a decision that puts you at risk, and is a decision you may or may not have made had they been there to consult and weigh in on... You jump in your buddie's car, and hey he is skilled *(and he clearly was and this clearly wasn't his fault) and nothing like this ever happens...And then it does.
Corey died. His family lost him, just like Ben's family lost him. The reason that Corey's family won in court is that simply put, Corey was along for the ride. At the end of the day, regardless how they ended up against the barriers, one thing can NOT be disputed... Corey was a passenger and had zero control. He would have been the ultimate victim in the eyes of most courts. I know what you're thinking, nobody forced him to jump in the car and go for the ride along. It was his choice and he wanted to be there... But he can't defend his choices now. It's up to his family and it's certainly their right in our country. Their loss of him was huge to them.
I have never lost someone so close to me. I can not say what is right or wrong for that family and I do feel that it is wrong for us to pass judgement on them. Until you've walked in those shoes, I don't honestly know how you can say what you might or might not do.
This case is a solid reminder to all of us, passenger or driver at track day events... The big one CAN and WILL happen. 5/10ths is what they teach in most of the groups I run with, for instructor ride-alongs.
Mike
Last edited by Mikelly; 01-19-2010 at 06:48 PM.