Weird handling behavior
#31
Your problem could also be related to your tire and wheel combo. The 997TT is engineered to have different tire size ratios front to back than the 996TT and the 996TT's viscous coupling is very sensitive to these differences. It could be setting off your PSM. Did your tires and wheels come directly off a 997TT? You can use 997TT wheels on a 996TT as long as the tires are within spec for the 996TT front differential. I'm not saying this is your problem, or that the electric problems aren't the cause. Just giving your something else to consider. The 996TT front differential is particularly sensitive to tire specs. If the tires are within spec, it couldn't hurt to have them recalibrate the steering sensor. It only takes a few minutes.
Check out this thread if you have the time:
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ire-se-up.html
Check out this thread if you have the time:
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ire-se-up.html
Last edited by MikeR397; 06-22-2010 at 02:07 PM.
#32
Good luck sorting it out. I'm no mechanic, just trying to pass along info in case it helps. The owner's manual does say to recalibrate the steering sensor whenever there is any suspension work done. Also, two different tire compounds on the same car could be setting off the PSM. That is a no-no in the owner's manual.
#33
To update, I had Porsche reset the steering angle sensor to fix the PSM problem I described above. It didnt' help.
I've read all I can find on this PSM issue and think my next step is to take off my front 235/35/19 PS2's and put on 225/35/19 to exactly match the rear 315/25/19 diameter. That 3/12'' tire difference seems like its most likely culprit if its not the steering angle sensor.
After that, maybe wiring harness, or wires within it could be broken? I read comments about the MAF, but dont' understand how that is related.
I'll also add that the car does feel quite twitchy after putting the 19'' wheels on. I realize there is less sidewall, so this is expected, but I think my car may not be aligned properly as I've seen others have this problem with the alightment with 19'' wheels fix the twitchy problem. Really, I'm not ever comfortable driving the car on the highway with just one hand b/c its so twitchy it just darts from lane to lane if I don't have two hands on the wheel. I'm thinking this is definately not normal for just 19'' wheels.
Let me know if I"m missing anything. Again, my PSM is activating around corners and causing what feels like just one caliper to set off. I will have to test this again, but I think it may just be during right turns, with the front right wheel's caliper locking. I don't know if I recall any left turns setting off PSM. If this is true, then I'd think its more likely wiring harness than tire size. I saw one person's report of this activity due to a broken wire to the PSM unit from the right tire area.
Edit: My car has not been lowered or had any suspension changes. Tire pressure is 36 front and 44 rear.
I've read all I can find on this PSM issue and think my next step is to take off my front 235/35/19 PS2's and put on 225/35/19 to exactly match the rear 315/25/19 diameter. That 3/12'' tire difference seems like its most likely culprit if its not the steering angle sensor.
After that, maybe wiring harness, or wires within it could be broken? I read comments about the MAF, but dont' understand how that is related.
I'll also add that the car does feel quite twitchy after putting the 19'' wheels on. I realize there is less sidewall, so this is expected, but I think my car may not be aligned properly as I've seen others have this problem with the alightment with 19'' wheels fix the twitchy problem. Really, I'm not ever comfortable driving the car on the highway with just one hand b/c its so twitchy it just darts from lane to lane if I don't have two hands on the wheel. I'm thinking this is definately not normal for just 19'' wheels.
Let me know if I"m missing anything. Again, my PSM is activating around corners and causing what feels like just one caliper to set off. I will have to test this again, but I think it may just be during right turns, with the front right wheel's caliper locking. I don't know if I recall any left turns setting off PSM. If this is true, then I'd think its more likely wiring harness than tire size. I saw one person's report of this activity due to a broken wire to the PSM unit from the right tire area.
Edit: My car has not been lowered or had any suspension changes. Tire pressure is 36 front and 44 rear.
Last edited by MikeR397; 09-06-2010 at 09:01 PM.
#34
To update, I had Porsche reset the steering angle sensor to fix the PSM problem I described above. It didnt' help.
I've read all I can find on this PSM issue and think my next step is to take off my front 235/35/19 PS2's and put on 225/35/19 to exactly match the rear 315/25/19 diameter. That 3/12'' tire difference seems like its most likely culprit if its not the steering angle sensor.
After that, maybe wiring harness, or wires within it could be broken? I read comments about the MAF, but dont' understand how that is related.
I'll also add that the car does feel quite twitchy after putting the 19'' wheels on. I realize there is less sidewall, so this is expected, but I think my car may not be aligned properly as I've seen others have this problem with the alightment with 19'' wheels fix the twitchy problem. Really, I'm not ever comfortable driving the car on the highway with just one hand b/c its so twitchy it just darts from lane to lane if I don't have two hands on the wheel. I'm thinking this is definately not normal for just 19'' wheels.
Let me know if I"m missing anything. Again, my PSM is activating around corners and causing what feels like just one caliper to set off. I will have to test this again, but I think it may just be during right turns, with the front right wheel's caliper locking. I don't know if I recall any left turns setting off PSM. If this is true, then I'd think its more likely wiring harness than tire size. I saw one person's report of this activity due to a broken wire to the PSM unit from the right tire area.
Edit: My car has not been lowered or had any suspension changes. Tire pressure is 36 front and 44 rear.
I've read all I can find on this PSM issue and think my next step is to take off my front 235/35/19 PS2's and put on 225/35/19 to exactly match the rear 315/25/19 diameter. That 3/12'' tire difference seems like its most likely culprit if its not the steering angle sensor.
After that, maybe wiring harness, or wires within it could be broken? I read comments about the MAF, but dont' understand how that is related.
I'll also add that the car does feel quite twitchy after putting the 19'' wheels on. I realize there is less sidewall, so this is expected, but I think my car may not be aligned properly as I've seen others have this problem with the alightment with 19'' wheels fix the twitchy problem. Really, I'm not ever comfortable driving the car on the highway with just one hand b/c its so twitchy it just darts from lane to lane if I don't have two hands on the wheel. I'm thinking this is definately not normal for just 19'' wheels.
Let me know if I"m missing anything. Again, my PSM is activating around corners and causing what feels like just one caliper to set off. I will have to test this again, but I think it may just be during right turns, with the front right wheel's caliper locking. I don't know if I recall any left turns setting off PSM. If this is true, then I'd think its more likely wiring harness than tire size. I saw one person's report of this activity due to a broken wire to the PSM unit from the right tire area.
Edit: My car has not been lowered or had any suspension changes. Tire pressure is 36 front and 44 rear.
#35
To update, I had Porsche reset the steering angle sensor to fix the PSM problem I described above. It didnt' help.
I've read all I can find on this PSM issue and think my next step is to take off my front 235/35/19 PS2's and put on 225/35/19 to exactly match the rear 315/25/19 diameter. That 3/12'' tire difference seems like its most likely culprit if its not the steering angle sensor.
After that, maybe wiring harness, or wires within it could be broken? I read comments about the MAF, but dont' understand how that is related.
I'll also add that the car does feel quite twitchy after putting the 19'' wheels on. I realize there is less sidewall, so this is expected, but I think my car may not be aligned properly as I've seen others have this problem with the alightment with 19'' wheels fix the twitchy problem. Really, I'm not ever comfortable driving the car on the highway with just one hand b/c its so twitchy it just darts from lane to lane if I don't have two hands on the wheel. I'm thinking this is definately not normal for just 19'' wheels.
Let me know if I"m missing anything. Again, my PSM is activating around corners and causing what feels like just one caliper to set off. I will have to test this again, but I think it may just be during right turns, with the front right wheel's caliper locking. I don't know if I recall any left turns setting off PSM. If this is true, then I'd think its more likely wiring harness than tire size. I saw one person's report of this activity due to a broken wire to the PSM unit from the right tire area.
Edit: My car has not been lowered or had any suspension changes. Tire pressure is 36 front and 44 rear.
I've read all I can find on this PSM issue and think my next step is to take off my front 235/35/19 PS2's and put on 225/35/19 to exactly match the rear 315/25/19 diameter. That 3/12'' tire difference seems like its most likely culprit if its not the steering angle sensor.
After that, maybe wiring harness, or wires within it could be broken? I read comments about the MAF, but dont' understand how that is related.
I'll also add that the car does feel quite twitchy after putting the 19'' wheels on. I realize there is less sidewall, so this is expected, but I think my car may not be aligned properly as I've seen others have this problem with the alightment with 19'' wheels fix the twitchy problem. Really, I'm not ever comfortable driving the car on the highway with just one hand b/c its so twitchy it just darts from lane to lane if I don't have two hands on the wheel. I'm thinking this is definately not normal for just 19'' wheels.
Let me know if I"m missing anything. Again, my PSM is activating around corners and causing what feels like just one caliper to set off. I will have to test this again, but I think it may just be during right turns, with the front right wheel's caliper locking. I don't know if I recall any left turns setting off PSM. If this is true, then I'd think its more likely wiring harness than tire size. I saw one person's report of this activity due to a broken wire to the PSM unit from the right tire area.
Edit: My car has not been lowered or had any suspension changes. Tire pressure is 36 front and 44 rear.
I have a durametric cable from my flash, but never used it for anything except the flash. How can I use this cable to see if the computer is giving any error messages, or reset the steering sensor myself before taking it to Porsche for $120 an hour labor?
Last edited by MikeR397; 09-07-2010 at 09:26 PM.
#37
I would add that coasting at 100mph through a corner is probably not the best thing to do in a 911...
These cars like maintenance throttle... 10-15% will settle the rear end and lock the differential up... keeping the car steady through the corner.
These cars like maintenance throttle... 10-15% will settle the rear end and lock the differential up... keeping the car steady through the corner.
#38
So you guys still think its tires despite the fact that the PSM problem only seems to be around right turns, not left turns? This seems strange to me, but in the end, would be a reasonably easy fix.
I have an appointment with Porsche Tuesday for a tech to go out with me an see what its doing so we can try to figure it out. At a minimum, I'll see if they can loan me a pair of wheels/tires. Hopefully they'll cooperate considering I just forked over $2k for a belt/tensioner repair last month (well my warranty covered $650 of it).
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