PSM or not to PSM?
#1
PSM or not to PSM?
I drove home tonight without PSM and could actually feel a difference in the responsiveness of the car. Am I imagining this or what? Who else drives without PSM?
#3
I do my hardest driving without PSM, but have never found it
perceptible in any public driving environment. I would suggest
asking someone to set PSM on or off while you weren't looking,
and then put tape over the switch so you wouldn't know, and
then try to tell by driving whether it was on or off.
I never turn it off in public, and if your feelings are really the
placebo effect, I would hate for you to get into a situation
where you needed PSM and it wasn't there.
I do notice the placebo effect in me too. A freshly waxed car
with a fresh oil change definitely 'drives smoother' and the car
sticks better right after I've checked the tire pressures...
Still though, if you're getting the tires to sing in corners, you
will notice PSM *is* like a car sedative...
Joe
perceptible in any public driving environment. I would suggest
asking someone to set PSM on or off while you weren't looking,
and then put tape over the switch so you wouldn't know, and
then try to tell by driving whether it was on or off.
I never turn it off in public, and if your feelings are really the
placebo effect, I would hate for you to get into a situation
where you needed PSM and it wasn't there.
I do notice the placebo effect in me too. A freshly waxed car
with a fresh oil change definitely 'drives smoother' and the car
sticks better right after I've checked the tire pressures...
Still though, if you're getting the tires to sing in corners, you
will notice PSM *is* like a car sedative...
Joe
#4
Re: PSM or not to PSM?
Originally posted by greyghost
I drove home tonight without PSM and could actually feel a difference in the responsiveness of the car. Am I imagining this or what? Who else drives without PSM?
I drove home tonight without PSM and could actually feel a difference in the responsiveness of the car. Am I imagining this or what? Who else drives without PSM?
#5
I think that might hold true on a bone stock car. On the modified cars the car pushes the threshold of the PSM just in tire slippage. Mine will send you through the windshield getting on the highway if I leave it on
#7
Originally posted by Moogle
what do people with highly engine modded cars do about PSM?
what do people with highly engine modded cars do about PSM?
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#8
Originally posted by cjv
They disconnect the throttle body shutdown.
They disconnect the throttle body shutdown.
#10
Originally posted by MARKSKI
Do you need the after market(scargo) larger throttle body to do this? if yes- does the computer freak out in any other way... is it drivable without any dashboard faults?
Do you need the after market(scargo) larger throttle body to do this? if yes- does the computer freak out in any other way... is it drivable without any dashboard faults?
#11
My car has a strange condition, with the PSM on with wet streets the car is almost undriveable. It darts all over and seems to open and close the throttle. I recently had to turn it off to get home safely. It's going in to the dealer but am curious if anyone has had this experience?
#12
Originally posted by No Substitute
My car has a strange condition, with the PSM on with wet streets the car is almost undriveable. It darts all over and seems to open and close the throttle. I recently had to turn it off to get home safely. It's going in to the dealer but am curious if anyone has had this experience?
My car has a strange condition, with the PSM on with wet streets the car is almost undriveable. It darts all over and seems to open and close the throttle. I recently had to turn it off to get home safely. It's going in to the dealer but am curious if anyone has had this experience?
still have lots of tread, or maybe the other way around?
Joe
#14
The sensitivity of the PSM system doesn't seem to be identical from car to car. Our bone stock X50 seems to allow a lot more slip than another X50. The dealership has a system test that you can request them to recaliberate the ABS and the PSM systems.
So far, I've found that PSM only slows me down in very tight autocross corners (the kind that you would like the car to rotate a lot). On the track or on the street, I am not sure pushing over the 8-9 degrees of slip angle or having the wheels on the same axel spin at difference speed (when PSM kicks in even if you turn it off) actually gain any speed. Excessive tire slippage may give the feeling of running faster but often times it's not.
Note that I don't drag race so my observation is limited to the tracks and streets.
So far, I've found that PSM only slows me down in very tight autocross corners (the kind that you would like the car to rotate a lot). On the track or on the street, I am not sure pushing over the 8-9 degrees of slip angle or having the wheels on the same axel spin at difference speed (when PSM kicks in even if you turn it off) actually gain any speed. Excessive tire slippage may give the feeling of running faster but often times it's not.
Note that I don't drag race so my observation is limited to the tracks and streets.