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Old 04-04-2010 | 12:19 PM
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skn sell this kit for 12900 Euro....! a lot of money...without details at her website...



at this price many other choices are possible
 
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imo your better off sending your ecu to one the tried and tested tuners on this board

just becuase someone has 15 yrs experience doing something doesnt mean they are good at it
 
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Old 04-04-2010 | 12:27 PM
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skn sell this kit for 12900 Euro....! a lot of money...without details at her website...



at this price many other choices are possible
I am not paying 12.900 euro !!!

I have the exhaust, they will only make the ecu !

You are from Germany what did you heard about skn ?


@ buzzm - I don't know about the difference of the fuel how the ecu from the us will work !
 
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Originally Posted by alex55
I am not paying 12.900 euro !!!

I have the exhaust, they will only make the ecu !

You are from Germany what did you heard about skn ?


@ buzzm - I don't know about the difference of the fuel how the ecu from the us will work !

93Oktan US is 98 Euro Oktan and 91Oktan US is 95 Euro Oktan.......so you can go with the US Tuner and they have every special file you like for your application...

SKN is Chip Tuner but not a special Porsche Tuner ,
 
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There are a good many members here from Europe and Germany... if SKN was a known tuner for the 996TT we would have heard of this.

Alex55- you are about the ONLY person who has posted the letters "SKN"
 
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Old 04-04-2010 | 01:41 PM
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There are a good many members here from Europe and Germany... if SKN was a known tuner for the 996TT we would have heard of this.

Alex55- you are about the ONLY person who has posted the letters "SKN"
ok so skn is not a big tuner but what do you thing of the winnings in hp and nm ?!

Is it possible with the k16 to achieve 520hp ? and the torque seems very high at 790Nm...
 
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Indeed i dont know why the euro tuners must charge that much for tuning parts ... i mean 12,900 euros is just nuts !!!!

i would get a tune from protomotive eveoms , epl etc
 
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i would get a tune from protomotive eveoms , epl etc
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Get a good tune from one of the best US tuners. European tuners don't even offer custom tuning via datalog....

And they want STUPID money for tuning packages.

I can't say the name of the company, but I asked for a "mid 500hp mod" cost to a very reputable Euro tuner......40.000 EUROS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For a couple of turbos, intercoolers, dv, exhaust, tune......

My friend, lets just e-mail some of the US tuners, discuss your needs with them, and you will be amazed.....

And remeber that with most of them, if you get a tune now, you will be able to get re-tunes later (for every other mod you will do to the car) for very very low prices.

I'm nearly in the same boat as you, and I'm only waiting to have enough money to get all the mods I want at once, but I have absolutely no doubt that I will be a super happy customer of an US tuner.
 

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Originally Posted by emadelta86
+1111111111111!!!!



Get a good tune from one of the best US tuners. European tuners don't even offer custom tuning via datalog....

And they want STUPID money for tuning packages.

I can't say the name of the company, but I asked for a "mid 500hp mod" cost to a very reputable Euro tuner......40.000 EUROS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For a couple of turbos, intercoolers, dv, exhaust, tune......

My friend, lets just e-mail some of the US tuners, discuss your needs with them, and you will be amazed.....

And remeber that with most of them, if you get a tune now, you will be able to get re-tunes later (for every other mod you will do to the car) for very very low prices.

I'm nearly in the same boat as you, and I' only waiting to have enough money to get all the mods I want at once, but I have absolutely no doubt that I will be a super happy customer of an US tuner.
I know but at least it's free !

I will try this company if I don't like how the car runs then I will speak with some US tuners !
 
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Originally Posted by alex55
ok so skn is not a big tuner but what do you thing of the winnings in hp and nm ?!

Is it possible with the k16 to achieve 520hp ? and the torque seems very high at 790Nm...
You are not understanding. small, big company is not the issue. You have no idea if SKN is good, if their 'winnings' are true or not, or if it is a safe tune or not!

A tune is NOT just the numbers!!!!!!
 
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Originally Posted by Prche951
have not heard of a K24/16g? 18G however is excellent and a good choice for upgrade. Also, regardless of X50 or not, the cost is low. The only difference is the turbo and using the factory turbo casing. Everything else is exactly the same.
My understanding is that X50 has the K24/16G turbos. So the upgrade to 18Gs to make it a K24/18G is a no brainer. The different turbos, using the GT2 ICs, and a slightly tuned ECU from Porsche at the time the car was being built is the X50 package. So if he had that package it would be a head start on a solid tune. You're right it is a cheap upgrade for what it cost to go from 16G to 18G if have the K24. But you should also look at the K16/16G Super. I think that is the name?
To the OP person, I'd do the 5bar FPR just because. It's cheap and gives you more room to expand later. You may not want to now but once the mods start it's hard to stop. But No, IMO you don't need a 5bar FPR if all you do is a tune and exhaust.
 

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Originally Posted by alex55
I am not paying 12.900 euro !!!

I have the exhaust, they will only make the ecu !

...

ok so skn is not a big tuner but what do you thing of the winnings in hp and nm ?!

Is it possible with the k16 to achieve 520hp ? and the torque seems very high at 790Nm...
Alex -

Let me try one more time. The SKN numbers might be correct, but all you have to go on is a table posted on their web site. Here are some questions that you ought to have answers to before you proceed with SKN, or anyone else for that matter.

520 hp at what rpm? How smooth is the torque curve, and at what rpm does it hit 790 Nm? You want to have torque come on smoothly at fairly low rpm, then sit at the max value over a significant rpm range, then drop off smoothly at higher rpm. This has a tremendous effect on drivability. You have to see dyno curves to know. If the tuner is any good, they will have done them and should show them to you.

Where are they setting the rev limit and max boost pressure?

Is the ECU program general, or does it have to be "tweaked" if you add anything else, such as different intake? If it needs to be changed, is there a charge for that?

I understand that the cost is low. Sometimes you get what you pay for.

Jon
 
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Alex -

Let me try one more time. The SKN numbers might be correct, but all you have to go on is a table posted on their web site. Here are some questions that you ought to have answers to before you proceed with SKN, or anyone else for that matter.

520 hp at what rpm? How smooth is the torque curve, and at what rpm does it hit 790 Nm? You want to have torque come on smoothly at fairly low rpm, then sit at the max value over a significant rpm range, then drop off smoothly at higher rpm. This has a tremendous effect on drivability. You have to see dyno curves to know. If the tuner is any good, they will have done them and should show them to you.

Where are they setting the rev limit and max boost pressure?

Is the ECU program general, or does it have to be "tweaked" if you add anything else, such as different intake? If it needs to be changed, is there a charge for that?

I understand that the cost is low. Sometimes you get what you pay for.

Jon
This is what I am talking about, the perfect post ! THANKS !!
 
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