There are plenty of people who own both on NAGTROC. Not sure why entering a different point of view would be perceived as waste of time.

Some people, though (and I think this is what your point was), are stuck in their ways, and refuse to see what others are presenting. I believe there is about as much of that here as there is on NAGTROC.

*edit: But as far as my recent posts here - I am in no way defending either car. I feel defending a 'car' would be pointless.

 

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