I don't get it, GT3
#16
Originally posted by ZAMIRZ
It's the purest 911 you can buy from Porsche in North America.
It's the purest 911 you can buy from Porsche in North America.
A friend of mine in Hamburg (know as zzboba on Rennteam.com) has one. We are always fighting about which car is the better one. My stock 996 TT with tiptronic or his ultra rough, hard clutched, ultra light CF-bomba! Though looking so much alike, both cars follow a totally different philosophy.
Whether you would like it or not? Can't say..., you really should drive one and then decide whether you want a race-car as a daily driver. I for one stick to my beloved tip-TT.
And if GT2 and Turbo S drivers with manual gear boxes call tip-TT drivers gay, then you can imagine what my GT3 RS buddy calls me.
#17
Originally posted by james
Turbo's can be overrated in many instances, there is nothing like the power of a high revving NA motor (honda's have taught me something) [/QUOTE
and if you drive the TT like the NA and keep revs above 3500, the subtle lag is more than made up for in rediculous power. Keep the revs high in the turns and you are as quick as anything else. Make it to the straight and it is say hello to my dust and stones.[/B]
Turbo's can be overrated in many instances, there is nothing like the power of a high revving NA motor (honda's have taught me something) [/QUOTE
and if you drive the TT like the NA and keep revs above 3500, the subtle lag is more than made up for in rediculous power. Keep the revs high in the turns and you are as quick as anything else. Make it to the straight and it is say hello to my dust and stones.[/B]
btw, people talk about moding the turbo. i have a friend with a GT3 who is about to put on 265 fronts/315 rears, and has already dropped 150 lbs off the car with relative minor changes (there is another 100 in unsprung reduction there for the taking if he chooses to go that route). i'd love to see the turbo that can keep up with that on the track.
Last edited by ben, lj; 01-27-2005 at 09:27 PM.
#21
Originally posted by james
Put your TT on a diet, make the necessary suspension and tire adjustments, add a few horses and there is NOTHING better. The GT-3 is great bang for the buck so it will never be overrated, but so is the C6 zO6. I'll bet it will feel empty to be passed by a 'vette while driving the GT-3. I wouldn't know because I drive a TT. Neither one passes me.
Put your TT on a diet, make the necessary suspension and tire adjustments, add a few horses and there is NOTHING better. The GT-3 is great bang for the buck so it will never be overrated, but so is the C6 zO6. I'll bet it will feel empty to be passed by a 'vette while driving the GT-3. I wouldn't know because I drive a TT. Neither one passes me.
Or my favorite 911, a GT3-RS. This car runs a 7:40 at the 'Ring with only 380bhp, that should say something.
Neitler one really has to worry about a C6 Z06 around the track. Power is only one component to a truly fast car.
Most people who think a modded 996TT is somehow a superior performing car to a GT3 just don't know what they're missing. An NA car can be driven more aggressively. Turbo cars can be faster around the track, but it takes a different driving style. Sorta like comparing a V-Twin to an Inline-4 motorcycle.
Apples to oranges. Unless you'd like to spend $300 large like someone we all know to bridge the gap.
Even still, he would have gotten better results starting off with a GT2.
#23
Originally posted by Darren
rave is just teasing - at leats I hope he is or he has just revealed he knows nothing about driving Rave your kidding - right ? bud ?
rave is just teasing - at leats I hope he is or he has just revealed he knows nothing about driving Rave your kidding - right ? bud ?
How does a GT3 compare to a Turbo with PSS9's, does that help the Turbo catch up in the handling arena?
Last edited by Rave TT; 01-28-2005 at 08:04 AM.
#24
Originally posted by james
Turbo's can be overrated in many instances, there is nothing like the power of a high revving NA motor (honda's have taught me something) [/QUOTE
Jane, you ignorant ****
I hear this all the time and it tickles me. . . "The smooth power band of the NA engine." You know, I have driven both including the best NA engine Porsche makes (CGT), and if you drive the TT like the NA and keep revs above 3500, the subtle lag is more than made up for in rediculous power. Keep the revs high in the turns and you are as quick as anything else. Make it to the straight and it is say hello to my dust and stones.
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Turbo's can be overrated in many instances, there is nothing like the power of a high revving NA motor (honda's have taught me something) [/QUOTE
Jane, you ignorant ****
I hear this all the time and it tickles me. . . "The smooth power band of the NA engine." You know, I have driven both including the best NA engine Porsche makes (CGT), and if you drive the TT like the NA and keep revs above 3500, the subtle lag is more than made up for in rediculous power. Keep the revs high in the turns and you are as quick as anything else. Make it to the straight and it is say hello to my dust and stones.
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Don't get me wrong, it does fly by just about everything, but it doesn't have the same satisfying feeling of...total control over what the car is doing. Complete connection. My Boxster is a much more rewarding track car, IMHO, and it has nowhere NEAR the power of the TT. But a GT3 is a little too raw for me to want. I don't have the desire (or the wallet) for a car that is only really comfortable on a track.
Obviously this is all personal preference, but I thought I would kick in my 2 cents.
#25
Originally posted by Rave TT
Not kidding, never rode in a GT3 and was just wondering. Now I know.
How does a GT3 compare to a Turbo with PSS9's, does that help the Turbo catch up in the handling arena?
Not kidding, never rode in a GT3 and was just wondering. Now I know.
How does a GT3 compare to a Turbo with PSS9's, does that help the Turbo catch up in the handling arena?
#26
Originally posted by Sloth
PSS9's are a nice improvement for a turbo, but regardless of what you do suspension wise it will still be heavier and have the AWD.
PSS9's are a nice improvement for a turbo, but regardless of what you do suspension wise it will still be heavier and have the AWD.
#27
Originally posted by Rave TT
Shows how much I know, I thought the awd is an advantage.
Shows how much I know, I thought the awd is an advantage.
#29
These comparisons are all silly. It's like arguing which kitchen knife is the BEST, assuming there's only one purpose with knives. Hmm, let's see. Is it the all-around 8" chef's knife, the 3.5" paring knife, or the 8" carving knife?
The AWD TT is equivalent to the 8" chef's knife, the workhorse of the kitchen. A chef's knife has a wide blade designed for slicing, chopping, and mincing that's rounded so that you can use a rocking motion for chopping. The tip of the blade is thin and flexible enough to work around bones; the hefty rear of the blade (the heel) can chop through a chicken's back. Even the flat of the blade is useful -- for crushing garlic or pounding cutlets.
The other two are more special purpose knives. You can force it to do other things, but it won't be as comfortable. It's all about using the right tool for the job. The TT, like the chef's knife, is a GREAT general purpose tool. It is one that I'll pick up first without thinking.
The AWD TT is equivalent to the 8" chef's knife, the workhorse of the kitchen. A chef's knife has a wide blade designed for slicing, chopping, and mincing that's rounded so that you can use a rocking motion for chopping. The tip of the blade is thin and flexible enough to work around bones; the hefty rear of the blade (the heel) can chop through a chicken's back. Even the flat of the blade is useful -- for crushing garlic or pounding cutlets.
The other two are more special purpose knives. You can force it to do other things, but it won't be as comfortable. It's all about using the right tool for the job. The TT, like the chef's knife, is a GREAT general purpose tool. It is one that I'll pick up first without thinking.
#30
The GT3 is a remarkable car. I dislike all new cars becuase they're loaded with useless stuff such as stability control and navigation systems. So often today, I feel like I have very little control over the cars that I drive. All of my cars have no traction control, and 1 doesn't have ABS either.
A turbo would be nice if I liked driving a sports car every day with Minnesota drivers (it's one of the worst places to drive if you haven't experienced it yet). I have never felt more connected to the road before driving the GT3. I hope Porsche keeps up the GT3's trend of simplicity.
A turbo would be nice if I liked driving a sports car every day with Minnesota drivers (it's one of the worst places to drive if you haven't experienced it yet). I have never felt more connected to the road before driving the GT3. I hope Porsche keeps up the GT3's trend of simplicity.