Dude...ZR1s are better 'performance wise' than pretty much any other production car on earth. Not sure how that helps your argument, though.

 

You made my day a car enthusiast thinks ZR1 is better than Carrera GT.
I have clear idea now why BMW is better than P.

 

I thought you were going to sleep where in your dreams ZR-1's are AWD?

Yep, that is a nice new car sold by GM that is clearly comparable to the production vehicles today that we were talking about.

 

He was being sarcastic, applying your own medicine, sigh.

 

Wait , that is so cuuutte...you changed your signature for me?

 

Ha ha...okay. Now you're really reaching!

A M3 is not a CGT, regardless of the type of aspiration it uses.

 

Uh, ya, all around would include performance. It would depend how much focus you put on that particular area. Seems the mag thought the M3's strengths in all areas outweighed engine power solely. You can mod for performance as well, right? So if you take that into account, I like the M3 even more.

You mean the NA you write when you mention the Panamera? Before that, you say BMW has no car that runs under 8:00 minutes, which was incorrect. No big deal.


Oh, but they have cars in North America that outlap Porsches on North American tracks? I guess that is embarassing, just not for BMW. The Panamera is a great car and the best sedan out, until the new M5 eats it alive. You know, because you are comparing a brand new sedan to past BMW performance vehicles? Just hold on


I guess I have no idea what I'm talking about. Nope, I don't consider fuel system and turbo upgrades bolt on's, sorry. You should check on that supraforums website you are so fond of what the difference between BPU and APU is.

 

You just seem easily confused so I don't want to distract you.

 

Curios new Sig

DCT M3 - Gintani Supercharged: 1/4 mile 12.91 @ 130.14 mph . HRE C90's, Hamann lip, Gintani Exhaust, Headers, Water Meth, etc. How much do you want to spend to go slow? Please PM me....leader of SLOWBMWS....

Cayenne S - Porsche I really even believe there is no substitute.

 

You must write for Leno when you aren't posting here.

 

Stop the presses, the Supra is the first performance car ever....and as such the Supra Forums is the sole proprietors of the definition of bolt ons.

 

You don't have to be the first to be correct but I find it odd that experience with MKIV's is claimed yet their modification standard is dismissed.

Let me guess, you consider turbo upgrades and fuel system upgrades bolt on's as well?

We already had this discussion and I agree with this assessment:


https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ml#post2633706

 

Bolt ons are external engine modifications that can typically be accomplished with simple hand tools.

 

Yep, simple hand tools aren't going to get what he had done, done. It isn't something quick and easy that just bolt's right up without supplemental changes.

I disagree with his definition and it is open to interpretation. I would consider a person well informed someone who has enough experience to state this.

 

We put our first turbo kit together in the garage with simple hand tools. Are you stupid enough to think that it requires special tools to put turbo kits, injectors, etc.. on these cars? It's a lot of 10mm, 13mm, 15mm, etc bolts. REALLY COMPLEX TOOLS!!!!!!