What kind of turbos do you have?Thanks.

 

Precision Billet 5857's w/ .82 a/r wheel.

First we are not Supra's... They are one of the ONLY communities to use APU/BPU words... I came from the LS1 world and we NEVER used that stupid ****... It was bolt-ons, Forced Induction, N2O, and built motors (when it was N/A)...

CURIO you remind me of the LS1/Ford/etc people that are so big of brand specific fan boys that nothing compares to their type cars. I don't think the Porsche is the end all car, trust me I'd trade it any day for a Ferrari, Lambo, etc.. I have respect for anything that is fast and it boggles my mind when people like you come out of the wood work just running their mouth spouting ignorant crap... If you were a Chevy person I wouldn't doubt you'd bring up the infamous Third Gen Camaro as being the greatest engineering marvel to ever grace this earth and how the SBC and BBC are the ONLY real motors. You act if my motor isn't going to last and I bet are hoping blows up which for that little comment of "only 6000 miles" you can go f*ck yourself because I'm sorry you don't have the right group of people helping you build your car to make power... Hell on our home built garage kit I was going 11.0s @ 137 in the HEAT making only 666rwhp and went a 6.1 60-130 with a passenger... Car has been holding strong ever since... Sorry your precious M3 motor's can't do that without going KABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!

So please get a life and stop posting ignorant ****... You sound more and more like a idiot every single time you post. If I was a mod you would have been gone a long time ago for being a idiot...

Hopefully this will start some good smack talk and make my day go by fast...

 

Is work THAT boring Chris?

 

It could be. If you don't see a response for awhile it's because I got busy. LOL!!!

 

Ahhh back froma couple days at the shore and the thread is still going.

BattaM3 and sidekick Curio/Sticky - I love your guys enthusiam and trying to make me out to be a cheater and liar. Real good sportmanship there. Fortunately we have a video where it's visiable that I did not need to cheat to win THAT race...

Furthermore BattaM3 keeps saying he thought there were gonna be rolls, so here are MY posts from your clown forum stating I am doing digs only.

The two of you either can't read, can't understand or just choose to ignore and cry about it later and pretend to be surprised by the "scared/cheating/lying 996 owner who won't do a roll".

I find it that BMW boys yelled I cheated - truly is awesome lol. Surprised you guys didn't say I snuck in a 200 shot of nitrous to win that one.

My first post in the clown thread....

yet another post saying drag race.
Yet again me clarifying for you that it will be a drag race.
Me explaining to you you WHY.

 

It seems that it was quite clearly established what kind of race it's going to be.

 

Now that's quite ignorant, there are plenty of 996TT's that have blown the motor due to mods on the stock block. Are you going to tell me it was simply because of the tune they had? Do you daily drive your car with 800+whp? Are you always running race gas?

 

I really dont want to join this subject but was it that big of a deal to run a quick roll race after? Would you much rather have race that was hardly a race? If you weren't worried about losing then I dont see another reason why you would not run a roll race. Its not that difficult! You guys arent running for money!

 

Curio because you and the 10 other guys that run M3's and maybe 1000 Supra owners think you can define what bolt ons are then I think your being presumptious. The term bolt ons has been out for a lot longer than those cars have even been out. Injectors and turbo's on an already turbo car are bolt ons. IMO

 

Like I said, some mags don't seem to care that much about performance. But both the GTR and Porsche outperform the M3 to a such a high degree (and also take to modifications so much easier), that to me personally, it's impossible for it to thought of as the most well rounded-car. That's only my personal opinion, though.

I bet there are a lot Honda Civic owners out there who believe that their cars are the most 'well-rounded' as well, since it won a comparison test in a magazine once or twice.

No, I was abslutely correct in what I was saying. You were just slow on the uptake. No big deal.

Amazingly, a quick Google search brought this up. Looks like the Porsche (the 997.1) was faster on this day. http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...r8-m3-gtr.html

Sure, on a tight track that doesn't require much power, the M3 will do well. It's well balanced and shifts very quickly. Heck, an Elise will do well also. I think the times will typically be close for the two cars on a track like this.

But....the 'ring exposes the primary weakness of the M3 (a significant lack of HP and torque) and it gets demolished by the Porsche. You certainly won't find any close races between the two on that track.

I think the guys on Supraforums will be very happy to know that in your mind, they are the defining answer to what the term "bolt-on" is.

But let me tell you what every single Supra will owner tell you: when you replace a spark plug, that's a bolt-on mod. When you replace an air-filter, that's a bolt-on mod. When you remove a fuel injector with your hands and insert a larger one in it's place, that's a bolt-on mod. When you replace a FPR with a large FPR that's a bolt-on mod.

I took my old P-car apart several times just to see how it worked. I R&R'd the turbos myself, swapped hotsides, replaced radiators, intercoolers, turbo lines, replaced the plugs, injectors, slave cylinder, alternator, belts, brake calipers and crank pulley. I spent many, many hours under that car and knew it pretty well. None of the mods on that car outside of the internals of the engine were anything but bolt-ons. Some were 'simple' bolt-ons, some were more 'complex' bolt-ons, but all were bolt-ons nonetheless.

Maybe you should do the same with yours, or at a minimum, sign up for a college shop class for a semester to learn more about this stuff. I'm serious. It's actually pretty fun.

 

PLEASE SHOW ME a HPF or a supercharged e92 running 10.80s.... OH wait there is not a single HPF car in the tens that is pathetic... My car has cut better e/t's when it was 400whp then any 700whp HPF car.... A BONE STOCK c6 z06 has run 10.80s I know for a fact that a 600whp N/A z06 will go nines... No hpf car or turbo e46 m3 has been in the tens.

 

All that said; I think this thread has served its purpose. I know some of the other mods have left it open out of professional courtesy, but its time has come to an end.

We've gone 20 pages, and things are continually getting more and more heated and we keep going in circles. The BMW guys seem to really believe they need to defend the honor of thier marque to us when really, what we think doesn't matter. You aren't going to change our minds and we certainly aren't going to change yours.

I think most of us here recognize and have readily admitted that BMW makes a fantastic car, but there's no need to try and convince us they are better Porsches.

Anyway, enjoy your cars. Be safe, be happy, and always make sure to race your race if you want to increase your chances of winning.

Thread closed (finally).