I'm not promoting a product. I'm pointing out the fact that your "product" is a flat stock piece of aluminum and some FACTORY Porsche 997TT bolts. If you want to revolutionize your product line, make something that can't be made by DIYers in their home shops with $50 worth of parts, a drill press and some aluminum stock.
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Why? Because they can't stand anyone pointing out the obvious that will remove money from their pockets. Dan's known for chasing members off this board... If you're not bowing down and worshiping him, then he'll cry to IB and the mods and get you banned... Bet on it I'll be banned by the end of the night...;)
NH
Originally Posted by dick_997
(Post 2975688)
Why do vendors get so testy? I dont think anyone is down on you or your business, we are just pointing out the obvious. For folks like me, I actually enjoy fabricating and making a spacer wouldn't take much time. There are others who dont have the equipment/time so I'm sure they would be happy to pay a reasonable price. No need to get snotty.
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I encourage people to do what they want to their car and to look at all options. If you are a hobbyist and have the knowledge, tools, and resources, by all means, make something you want to.
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Originally Posted by dick_997
(Post 2975073)
You can run the cayenne rotors, they have the correct offset. The only issue is that only one of the holes that attach the rotor to hub line up correctly. I don't even run those screws anyway as the lug nuts align/center rotor. Never had an issue. Several guys in my local racing club run the same as well. The solid rotors last much longer without cracking. Longer even than the brembo cross drilled rotors I tried.
Offset on the Gt3 hub and a turbo hub is different. the cayenne rotors have the gt3 offset. turbo's are slightly different. |
I do, and I will...
And for the record, I want to be perfectly clear. I do not, and will not make parts for sale. That was NOT the intent of my post. However, the internet is in my mind is to share information and help other "people". Maybe you should "poll" the masses to see what "we" want you to make? NH |
joyride - I learned that the hard way a long time ago and the GT3 rotors were put on a OEM 6pot upgrade on a 996TT. The pads rubbed terrible. You definitely should use a 997TT rotor. However for someone that understands the dynamics of braking and how important it is, a lighter weight 2pc rotor to keep a true center line of the pad will improve braking tremendously. That is just 1 function. If you stick with the stock 4piston front caliper, steel braided lines and a the right pad choice is key. Pads also should be chosen by the track type you run, tires, and car weight...
I love talking brakes having used every kit out there from AP Racing, Rotora, StopTech, and Brembo. My cars can always be seen here - www.vividracing.com/forums/vr-project-cars |
Fool and his money? :rolleyes:
Originally Posted by Dan@SharkWerks
(Post 2975769)
Porsche tax :D
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Fellas...if you don't like what is being offered, then don't buy it. Dan's not reinventing the wheel...nor is he claiming to. He's doing the work for those who lack DIY skills and prefer a pre-made package. If you think you have the skills to DIY and can do it for a lower cost (for the record, Dan hasn't even listed a price...) then have a beer and relax. But as we have all seen (sometime regrettably) not everyone has technical skills to build their own kit.
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Thanks for producing a product that 90 percent of the people are incapable of making themselves whether it be because of lack of ability or time.
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I would think steel is going to be used correct? I don't like aluminum brackets. Just my two cents
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Vivid Racing did a very good job of bringing down the Porsche Tax with its Agency Power product line. Now with the Porsche 996TT even less expensive, it brings out a whole new client base to afford a car they have dreamed about. Our goal has always been to offer a mass marketed product at a lower cost then our competitors with the equal or better performance or uniqueness to what was on the market. Yes we are a business with 25 employees and a 15,000 sqft building. But if I did not care about what went on here, I would not be involved. Its not about just making money for me, only those that know me or have talked to me personally will understand my passion.
A perfect example of us smashing Porsche Tax would be the release of our silicone boost hose kits. The only kit that was on the market cost around $1300-$1400. Our kit retailed for $800. I think we have sold 200 kits. We also introduce a cold air intake that we sold maybe 150 units. Even our dual flow intake in carbon has been a success. We "did" listen to some prominent members who did not want the bling of carbon but the function of the dual flow, so we produce a matte black one at a lesser cost. We have done alot of things for the 996 Turbo customers since 2006. Some products are great sellers and really help people, some not... Our 996TT Carbon Lip Spoiler, not a hit. Like some of the other old school vendors, what seperates us is we own the cars, we test the products, and we can support our customers 150%. |
These parts will be hard anodized and laser with the AP logo. They will include new bolts. We should have product photos soon.
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Originally Posted by NathanialHale
(Post 2975706)
Dan's known for chasing members off this board... If you're not bowing down and worshiping him, then he'll cry to IB and the mods and get you banned... Bet on it I'll be banned by the end of the night...;)
NH I understand how you are feeling ........ however you really could not be farther from the truth. :cool: Yes, some sponsors have gone to IB, however I can tell you IB has never and I repeat never interfered with the moderators on behalf of a sponsor. 6speed has written rules and as long as anyone stays within those rules they will not be banned ....... guaranteed. I have been a mod here since 6speed started, July 2003. I have moderated for two groups of owners. IB Brands has been very, very hands off with the moderators. I have never seen them interfere with members being banned or not banned. |
I find your posts harassing, condescending and bordering on juvenile.
You can point out that a home made kit can be made without minimizing Dan's efforts. Dan has earned respect here on this forum through years of hard work and integrity. It wasn't easy as there were many doubters.
Originally Posted by NathanialHale
(Post 2975748)
I do, and I will...
And for the record, I want to be perfectly clear. I do not, and will not make parts for sale. That was NOT the intent of my post. However, the internet is in my mind is to share information and help other "people". Maybe you should "poll" the masses to see what "we" want you to make? NH |
Originally Posted by dick_997
(Post 2975991)
I think you might want to double check that. I know the gt3 have different offset, but I RUN the cayenne rotors on my car, so I'm not just saying I think they will fit. I've measured both but long lost the info. Check on some of the other forums, there was another member running them also. I can get 6-8 full track days from a set and have even pad wear using them. That's just my .02.
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