18G's too slow......now what?
#32
I can share a little of my experience going from 18g's to 20g's. The 20g's on pump gas perform similarly to 18g's on race gas. The upgrade is significant in cost however. I would suspect that if you have already done a clutch it will still cost you about 6K minimum for the hardpiping, IC's and various other tidbits you will need. Is it worth it? Every penny. I think the 20's are one of the best all around turbos for these cars and I've been fortunate to drive a few of the various setups around from K16/16g cars to GT30 cars. The spooltime is almost zero the power delivery is extremely linear relative to the power it makes. I wouldn't think twice about doing the upgrade. If you plan to run pump gas primarily you can tune accordingly and run 1.2bar all day every day.
#33
Hi Jane,
I can share a little of my experience going from 18g's to 20g's. The 20g's on pump gas perform similarly to 18g's on race gas. The upgrade is significant in cost however. I would suspect that if you have already done a clutch it will still cost you about 6K minimum for the hardpiping, IC's and various other tidbits you will need. Is it worth it? Every penny. I think the 20's are one of the best all around turbos for these cars and I've been fortunate to drive a few of the various setups around from K16/16g cars to GT30 cars. The spooltime is almost zero the power delivery is extremely linear relative to the power it makes. I wouldn't think twice about doing the upgrade. If you plan to run pump gas primarily you can tune accordingly and run 1.2bar all day every day.
I can share a little of my experience going from 18g's to 20g's. The 20g's on pump gas perform similarly to 18g's on race gas. The upgrade is significant in cost however. I would suspect that if you have already done a clutch it will still cost you about 6K minimum for the hardpiping, IC's and various other tidbits you will need. Is it worth it? Every penny. I think the 20's are one of the best all around turbos for these cars and I've been fortunate to drive a few of the various setups around from K16/16g cars to GT30 cars. The spooltime is almost zero the power delivery is extremely linear relative to the power it makes. I wouldn't think twice about doing the upgrade. If you plan to run pump gas primarily you can tune accordingly and run 1.2bar all day every day.
+1
Bobby's 2001 white 996tt was I believe the first one to be fitted with 20gs.. granted, he ported, polished, clipped the turbine wheel... and even extrude and honed the hot side.... that car gave a many nightmares... even the 30rs... but the owner was an elite in what he does... always pushing the envelope... thus the great results...
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2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
9.66 seconds @ 147.76 mph 1/4 mile click to view
160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
50% OFF ON PORSCHE ECU TUNING BLACK FRIDAY SPECIAL
2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
9.66 seconds @ 147.76 mph 1/4 mile click to view
160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
50% OFF ON PORSCHE ECU TUNING BLACK FRIDAY SPECIAL
#34
+1
Bobby's 2001 white 996tt was I believe the first one to be fitted with 20gs.. granted, he ported, polished, clipped the turbine wheel... and even extrude and honed the hot side.... that car gave a many nightmares... even the 30rs... but the owner was an elite in what he does... always pushing the envelope... thus the great results...
Bobby's 2001 white 996tt was I believe the first one to be fitted with 20gs.. granted, he ported, polished, clipped the turbine wheel... and even extrude and honed the hot side.... that car gave a many nightmares... even the 30rs... but the owner was an elite in what he does... always pushing the envelope... thus the great results...
That's one of the cars i've been lucky enough to drive actually.
#35
In minnesota?
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2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
9.66 seconds @ 147.76 mph 1/4 mile click to view
160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
50% OFF ON PORSCHE ECU TUNING BLACK FRIDAY SPECIAL
2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
9.66 seconds @ 147.76 mph 1/4 mile click to view
160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
50% OFF ON PORSCHE ECU TUNING BLACK FRIDAY SPECIAL
#37
Hows it running? U know there was a few hands in there before it came to MInnesota..
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2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
9.66 seconds @ 147.76 mph 1/4 mile click to view
160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
50% OFF ON PORSCHE ECU TUNING BLACK FRIDAY SPECIAL
2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
9.66 seconds @ 147.76 mph 1/4 mile click to view
160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
50% OFF ON PORSCHE ECU TUNING BLACK FRIDAY SPECIAL
#40
I would agree depending on who tunes the car and whether or not its an off the shelf file or a custom file.
#42
I don't want to threadjack here, but what about lag on the 20g's ?, personally I like as much torque down low on the street. If I were looking to take the next step past 18g's, taking the torque down low into consideration (and I mean down low as possible, peak TQ under 4k), what turbo is going to give me this without completely sacrificing HP up high ?
Last edited by JSBear; 09-17-2010 at 11:51 AM.
#44
I don't want to threadjack here, but what about lag on the 20g's ?, personally I like as much torque down low on the street. If I were looking to take the next step past 18g's, taking the torque down low into consideration (and I mean down low as possible, peak TQ under 4k), what turbo is going to give me this without completely sacrificing HP up high ?
#45
I don't want to threadjack here, but what about lag on the 20g's ?, personally I like as much torque down low on the street. If I were looking to take the next step past 18g's, taking the torque down low into consideration (and I mean down low as possible, peak TQ under 4k), what turbo is going to give me this without completely sacrificing HP up high ?
EDIT: Just looked at your mods. The upgrade to 20g's is a no brainer for you!! Do you have an upgraded clutch too? If so, I bet you could have everything done including the switch to 20g's for about 3-4K (Hard Piping, Additional Fuel Pump, misc.)
Last edited by bmoores; 09-17-2010 at 12:22 PM.