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Xico,

I had titanium rods and replaced them on my second motor. All the information I have says you are pushing your luck after 700 rwhp with titanium rods....
Chad - what's your suggestion for rods on 700 - 750 HP?

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So Xico, to clarify, did you fit the racing GT3-RS uprights/ carriers/hubs on the front and rear or just the rears with custom TRG uprights/carriers/hubs in the front?

Also, don't the RS front wheel carriers require 380mm rotors? Did you upgrade to 15" brakes as well?
 
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Cool

I haven't been for a ride with Xico, but have driven next to him!
That was exciting enough.
Go Xico!
 
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I was going to ask what kind of brakes are on xico's car but the pic was the answer. Looks like some of Brembo's finest GTR brakes are installed.

The car looks superb. All the mod's complement each other and it looks like one of the best turbo's around. Job well done xico.
 
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Originally posted by Zippy
Chad - what's your suggestion for rods on 700 - 750 HP?

Mike
Mike,

If you are talking 700-750 @ the flywheel, that is 588-630 rwhp, then you would be fine. This is the range Ruf uses them on their Nardo motor. If you are talking rwhp install a set of Carrillo or Pauter rods because you are entering the point where you may need them.

What you are giving up is weight. The titanium at approx. 365 grams each versus the others at approx. 550 grams each. The difference (feel) is about the same as using a light flywheel. There are other ways to reduce weight. Knife edge the crank and lighter pistons with smaller wrist pins.
 

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Chad,

Are you saying internals are fine for the 600 rwhp or would you need titanium at this point? Evo is not showing replacement rods in either their 700 or 750 package, only in the 800. At what rwhp do you bend your rods?

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What are the carillo or pauter rods made out of? Are they still lighter than the stock rods?
 
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Originally posted by Ted
Chad,

Are you saying internals are fine for the 600 rwhp or would you need titanium at this point? Evo is not showing replacement rods in either their 700 or 750 package, only in the 800. At what rwhp do you bend your rods?

Thanks,
Ted.
I would recommend titanium or Carrillo/Pauter. Ruf uses titanium after 540 or 560. They use them on their 590 hp Nardo motor. I guess it depends on the longevity you are looking for along with how you drive your car. Another factor would be how you are sticking the power to the ground.

I would definitely go with a rod upgrade @ 600 rwhp the way I set up my cars to stick the power to the ground.
 
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What are the carillo or pauter rods made out of? Are they still lighter than the stock rods?
A proprietary mixture of chromium, nickel, vanadium, molybdenium forged alloy. They weigh approx. 550 grams a rod versus approx. 557 grams for a stock rod. The titanium rods weigh approx 365 grams per rod.
 
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I went with Carrillos for the same reason. Lighter is not always better- especially for big power.....
 
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Originally posted by cjv
Mike,

If you are talking 700-750 @ the flywheel, that is 588-630 rwhp, then you would be fine. This is the range Ruf uses them on their Nardo motor. If you are talking rwhp install a set of Carrillo or Pauter rods because you are entering the point where you may need them.

What you are giving up is weight. The titanium at approx. 365 grams each versus the others at approx. 550 grams each. The difference (feel) is about the same as using a light flywheel. There are other ways to reduce weight. Knife edge the crank and lighter pistons with smaller wrist pins.
Thanks Chad - Would this reccomendation still hold true if a LSD was installed?
 
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Chad - OT question, how much are the GT3 heads and can they be added to say a Stage 4GT car and make more power across the rev range without having to change anything else?
 
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xico, is it possible for you to list our the mods in word document file for us to download?
what u're doing now will be what i'm heading towards ^_^...however i'll probably be planning on keeping the car at gt700 level, however internal and other side parts will be re-enforced...
 
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the incredible thing about XICO's car is that not only is it unparalled in looks, it has the performance to back it up in f#cking force. an amazing machine.

and 63k miles? This car should be an inspiration to all the other Turbos out there.
 
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