Annoying Clutch Creaking!!!
#1
Annoying Clutch Creaking!!!
About 2 months ago, I had Carlsen Porsche replace the accumulator, slave, and power steering reservoir. These were all done under the Porsche CPO warranty.
A few weeks later, I notice the clutch pedal felt a little rough at the bottom 25% of the travel right before the floor. Didn't think too much of it until one day I had the windows down and notice along with the rougher pedal travel, there was a noticeable creaking noise. It only happens at the bottom of the clutch travel.
So yesterday, I drop by Stevens Creek Porsche (Closer to work) and had them look at it. They verified the noise, but wasn't able to tell me much more. They said it was coming from the clutch area and the only way they could tell me exactly what was wrong was to drop the engine/tranny and take a look. Quoted me $2,500 labor for that.
I asked about the warranty covering the issue. They were reluctant to commit to it. They said it could be the clutch is worn out (My car has 23k miles) which would not be covered. They said the only circumstance CPO would cover it is if the noise was related to the flywheel.
So before they can get started, they wanted me to OK the $2,500 estimate. I declined and took the car home.
Here's a video of the creaking / squeaking noise:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/teknic3/5043586170/
Anyone know what could be the cause of the noise? Any chance it'll be covered under the CPO warranty?
A few weeks later, I notice the clutch pedal felt a little rough at the bottom 25% of the travel right before the floor. Didn't think too much of it until one day I had the windows down and notice along with the rougher pedal travel, there was a noticeable creaking noise. It only happens at the bottom of the clutch travel.
So yesterday, I drop by Stevens Creek Porsche (Closer to work) and had them look at it. They verified the noise, but wasn't able to tell me much more. They said it was coming from the clutch area and the only way they could tell me exactly what was wrong was to drop the engine/tranny and take a look. Quoted me $2,500 labor for that.
I asked about the warranty covering the issue. They were reluctant to commit to it. They said it could be the clutch is worn out (My car has 23k miles) which would not be covered. They said the only circumstance CPO would cover it is if the noise was related to the flywheel.
So before they can get started, they wanted me to OK the $2,500 estimate. I declined and took the car home.
Here's a video of the creaking / squeaking noise:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/teknic3/5043586170/
Anyone know what could be the cause of the noise? Any chance it'll be covered under the CPO warranty?
Last edited by TekNiC3; 10-01-2010 at 10:48 PM.
#2
Mine does it too...from day 1. My P-tech sad it's the slave cilynder and I have not to worry about it if I can stand the noise...
Maybe our 6speed friend jpflip could give us an insight.
Maybe our 6speed friend jpflip could give us an insight.
#5
I would like to help but never heard this before.... Of course there is a spring inside the slave that is moving when the clutch pedal is depress. (se pics in red) and this spring is flooded in pentosin oil. I doubt the noise come from inside the slave. But may be from the pressure plate or the fork that is operating the bearing onto the pressure plate.... Difficult to troubleshoot without being under the car while someone is operating the clutch pedal....
Last edited by jpflip; 10-02-2010 at 09:46 AM. Reason: picture...
#6
could be the dry contact point from slave pushrod to the fork, dry pivot bushings on the fork, pressure plate, etc. hard to tell unless you take it apart and lube everything and recheck but might as well change the clutch while you're there
#7
If you feel like trying something not too easy because of the accessibility but may be useful.... You got a small access on the right side (left looking aft) of the transmission. After the starter is removed there is a rubber cap that give you access to the clutch housing. May be you can lubricate the clutch fork pivot point and the contact point from slave to fork like "pinoy911tt" is mentioning.... But the access is really bad.... And be careful not to spray any oil onto the pressure plate.... The last pic is the fork and the two pivot point (may be the noise come from there) and the slave piston touching point....
Last edited by jpflip; 10-02-2010 at 11:22 AM.
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#8
I would like to help but never heard this before.... Of course there is a spring inside the slave that is moving when the clutch pedal is depress. (se pics in red) and this spring is flooded in pentosin oil. I doubt the noise come from inside the slave. But may be from the pressure plate or the fork that is operating the bearing onto the pressure plate.... Difficult to troubleshoot without being under the car while someone is operating the clutch pedal....
If you feel like trying something not too easy because of the accessibility but may be useful.... You got a small access on the right side (left looking aft) of the transmission. After the starter is removed there is a rubber cap that give you access to the clutch housing. May be you can lubricate the clutch fork pivot point and the contact point from slave to fork like "pinoy911tt" is mentioning.... But the access is really bad.... And be careful not to spray any oil onto the pressure plate.... The last pic is the fork and the two pivot point (may be the noise come from there) and the slave piston touching point....
Thanks for the explanation. I'll keep this info for the dealership to look into.
I do not think this type is noise is normal. So I'm questioning why the CPO warranty won't cover something like this.
#9
That sound makes me want to spray your car with a can of WD-40. Kidding aside, glad to hear it is not something to worry about if "you can live with it". I don't know if I personally could. Good luck with it.
#12
With the car on, it isn't as noticeable.
Tell me about it. I hate squeaks and rattles. Creaking is even worse!
2-3 times a week.
I don't know if this is related to the parts I had replaced. Maybe just coincidence.....maybe not?
My noise isn't going away after the car warms up. When things are cold, there isn't any noise.
Good luck!
2-3 times a week.
I don't know if this is related to the parts I had replaced. Maybe just coincidence.....maybe not?
Good luck!
#13
Hopefully the new Porsche CPO warranty will cover this. It does state "all" parts are covered.
Originally Posted by http://www.porsche.com/usa/pre-owned-vehicles/approved/warranty/
The warranty seal of “Porsche Approved” stands for certified quality. The new Porsche Approved Certified Pre-owned Limited Warranty offers full peace of mind. Porsche Cars NA will repair or replace with new or remanufactured part any factory installed part that is faulty in material or workmanship under normal use. This limited warranty covers all parts of the following components:
- Engine
- Fuel / Cooling system
- Power train / transmission
- Suspension / Steering
- Brake system
- Heating / Air conditioning
- Electrical Systems
- Body
- Comfort Electronics
#14
That creaking sound usually happens when the pressure plate is on its way out! I am on my 3rd clutch now and its doing it too. I also spun the clutch hard in 3rd gear 4 weeks ago, just have to get the time to install my triple disc set up.
If the noise sounds like its a spring binding its the p plate. the other points of contact do not get greased and unless there is some surface rust would not make a spring noise or a felt difference in the pedal more of a squeak. If it was rust that would clear up after a few strokes of the clutch.
If the noise sounds like its a spring binding its the p plate. the other points of contact do not get greased and unless there is some surface rust would not make a spring noise or a felt difference in the pedal more of a squeak. If it was rust that would clear up after a few strokes of the clutch.