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Old 10-11-2010, 06:17 PM
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money is not the issue, so that is not a problem.

My point is that had I not decided to put my shop vac to one end and seal the other end, I would have installed this thing and I would have been loosing many psi on ONE side. Buyer beware. Perform your own checks when you buy any IC's. There are considered some of the best and they are total junk and that is how they came, that did not happen later. They have been junk from day one. And no they are not B6.

I know it is to late to make the builder responsible for possible damage these IC's have caused, but it seems to me that there needs to be some responsibility here. These are 1 owner IC's.

I feel sorry for my friend who owned these. He had so many problems and no clue that it could have been the IC's.
 
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Old 10-11-2010, 06:40 PM
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it will cost me $300 to repair IC's. I guess the question is, if you cut that section up and and repair it, you will loose a 1.5 inch area of fins along the width of the cooler. The other cooler has a similar problem and will need to be repaired as well. The leak is not as big, but the repair will be the same. Is it worth the trouble to repair these IC's?
 
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Have you asked the tuner/vendor yet if they'll repair? Maybe the weld was weak and after they heat cycled a few times they sprung. I think you've got a reasonable case for at least a repair.

Whether or not its worth spending $300 of your own dime is another issue -can you tell if the internal fins are staggered or louvered? From first glance, the core doesn't appear to be US made but can't be certain.
 

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Have you asked the tuner/vendor yet if they'll repair? Maybe the weld was weak and after they heat cycled a few times they sprung. I think you've got a reasonable case for at least a repair.

no, I have not done that. I my give that venue a try.
 
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Originally Posted by Prche951
it will cost me $300 to repair IC's. I guess the question is, if you cut that section up and and repair it, you will loose a 1.5 inch area of fins along the width of the cooler. The other cooler has a similar problem and will need to be repaired as well. The leak is not as big, but the repair will be the same. Is it worth the trouble to repair these IC's?
If you are saying you will loose a 1.5x6+ inch area on each cooler I would say probably not worth it. Maybe Iam misunderstanding the dimensions of the proposed repair...
 
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Old 10-11-2010, 07:07 PM
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If you are saying you will loose a 1.5x6+ inch area on each cooler I would say probably not worth it. Maybe Iam misunderstanding the dimensions of the proposed repair...
I will loose that much in fin area, The core has a flat plate on each side. Directly next to the plate is the first row of cooling fins for the cross flow. In order to repair the IC, they would cut that flat plate and remove a 1.5 inch x 3 inch wide area of outer fins. There are 14 rows of fins so the area lost would be about 1/5 of one row. Not a lot, maybe a 3-5% loss in cooling area at most? Still better than stock, but not what I expected.
 
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I will loose that much in fin area, The core has a flat plate on each side. Directly next to the plate is the first row of cooling fins for the cross flow. In order to repair the IC, they would cut that flat plate and remove a 1.5 inch x 3 inch wide area of outer fins. There are 14 rows of fins so the area lost would be about 1/5 of one row. Not a lot, maybe a 3-5% loss in cooling area at most? Still better than stock, but not what I expected.
Thats better than I was thinking...

So 1/5 of one row lost with a total of 14 rows is ~1.4% lost. I would say that will not be noticable. So I would repair them especially if cost is not particularly important in this situation.
 
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awful lot of aggravation just to weezel out of buying Secans...geeezz....
 
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awful lot of aggravation just to weezel out of buying Secans...geeezz.
 
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I should have bought secans
 
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Based on what you stated earlier, being that both IC have been leaking, it could be considered prudent to assume that after the local repair, another area may fail. Sounds like you may have a core quality issue., ergo: a rotten apple.
 
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Originally Posted by unterbergamotte
Based on what you stated earlier, being that both IC have been leaking, it could be considered prudent to assume that after the local repair, another area may fail. Sounds like you may have a core quality issue., ergo: a rotten apple.

that is what the radiator repair guy and the welder both told me. We can fix the obvious ones and then find new ones and so on. It could get costly.

a pair of rotten apples.
 
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you may end up opening them and finding yourself in a major bind.. we have tried to repair someones ICs... same issue... it may become a problem as welding used dirty aluminum is hard to weld and you may find yourself chasing a leak you will not fix.. and if you do it may end up half way down the IC... be careful... I wish I had pics...
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Originally Posted by MARKSKI@911tuning
you may end up opening them and finding yourself in a major bind.. we have tried to repair someones ICs... same issue... it may become a problem as welding used dirty aluminum is hard to weld and you may find yourself chasing a leak you will not fix.. and if you do it may end up half way down the IC... be careful... I wish I had pics...
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yup, it is starting to sound like my custom exhaust project cost me more than a good aftermarket exhaust like an EP
 
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yup, it is starting to sound like my custom exhaust project cost me more than a good aftermarket exhaust like an EP
Dennis,
I am sorry the IC project didn't turn out as you hoped. I definitely learned a thing or two from your thread though. Perhaps you might receive some help from the original manufacturer...
 


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