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The Camero is already a Dime a Dozen.

Some1 can give the exact #, but somewhere around 9,000 was the total # of 911 Twin Turbo made between 2001 / 2005.

It's a true Exotic Super Car.

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The 996 turbos may have dropped in value and become more affordable but if you have a major motor problem, and many have, make sure you have about $30,000 on hand or a warranty.
 
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Originally Posted by vip gts
The 996 turbos may have dropped in value and become more affordable but if you have a major motor problem, and many have, make sure you have about $30,000 on hand or a warranty.
I've had mine a year and 12 days, I've put around 16,000 miles on it in that time. In Aug I put 3306 miles in 8 days.
I read a ton of articles about them before I bought mine, talked to countless people who own 1, and this is the 1st time I have heard about the major motor problems. I know guys running 600+HP and driving thier car regularly w/ no issues.

Could you give some details on what you are talking about please.
 
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This is the first I have also heard about "many" problems. Given the number of posts of vip gts = here to stir crap.
 
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Seconded on getting a PPI (pre-purchase inspection) from a reputable dealer or a Porsche specialist. Like many things in life, you get what you pay for. Make sure you are not inheriting another person's headaches.

Common issues: second gear pop out, leaky diverter valves, rear spoiler hydraulic failure, etc.


While the initial price of entry may seem low at the moment for a car of this caliber, keep in mind that it was a $100k+ car new and you will be paying for the Porsche tax one way or another.

Replacement hydraulic for the aforementioned rear spoiler hydraulic is around ~$1,800 as I recall. Want a new after market exhaust system? They are around $4k. I had a E46 M3 before this and was able to pick up a brand new fancy titanium exhaust for ~$2k. Tires will likely cost more (due to their size/width) and probably insurance as well.

To get a 996 Turbo into the 600 horses territory, it might not be cheaper than turbocharging your current ride. Exhaust ($4k?), ECU flash ($1,200?) and maybe the popular K24/18g kit ($5-6k?).

I would visit some of the sponsored vendor/tuner's sites to get a feel of cost of performance parts, maybe get on Suncoast Porsche's site to gauge prices of maintenance parts, call your insurance co., and talk to some of your local Porsche mechanics to get a better picture of the true cost of ownership.

Lastly, as for attracting unwanted attention, don't discount the Turbo like I did. I originally cross shopped the Turbo with the 360 Modena, but opted for the Turbo because I thought I could be low key with it. People will honk, instigate races, follow you to take pictures, strike up conversation at parking lots, etc. True, next to a Lambo or F Car, it wouldn't get a second glance, but by itself amongst a sea of boring commuters, a clean Turbo still garners its fair share of attention. Maybe I just need to get rid of my gold wheels and aerokit.
 
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So what about something like this and adding on a twin turbo?

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/ctd/2030511866.html

Granted I think this car is hideous and probably been abused but it got me thinking about what if adding a TT setup.
 
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Originally Posted by phenixdragon
So what about something like this and adding on a twin turbo?

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/ctd/2030511866.html

Granted I think this car is hideous and probably been abused but it got me thinking about what if adding a TT setup.
I'm confused.

Are you talking about buying a 996 then adding the twin turbo to it?

Porsches don't work like that....

Do yourself a favor and spend a few evenings reading up on these cars...here, rennlist.
 
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Not sure what you are confused about. Sounds like you understood the question. Just curious though as you can always turbo anything. Just a mater of cost and just wondering if it's worth it. Sounds like though it's not worth it.
 

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Originally Posted by phenixdragon
Not sure what you are confused about. Sounds like you understood the question. Just curious though as you can always turbo anything. Just a mater of cost and just wondering if it's worth it. Sounds like though it's not worth it.


There's more to a Turbo than just the turbos.
 
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Originally Posted by GMendoza

There's more to a Turbo than just the turbos.
No $hit. No need to act like like. And you can still turbo anything. It's just the amount of money you want to spend.

But not knowing anything really about Porsches, one would assume the motor between the 996's are essentially the same. As with GM's 6.2L in my Camaro is essentially the same motor as the ZR1. There are obvious differences but you can also strap on that ZR1 LS9 Supercharger onto any LS3 motor. One would think it may be possible to do the same on any non 996 Turbo. Hmm...
 
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Originally Posted by phenixdragon
But not knowing anything really about Porsches, one would assume the motor between the 996's are essentially the same. As with GM's 6.2L in my Camaro is essentially the same motor as the ZR1. There are obvious differences but you can also strap on that ZR1 LS9 Supercharger onto any LS3 motor. One would think it may be possible to do the same on any non 996 Turbo. Hmm...
No, they are not. Watch the condescending attitude and cursing towards those who are trying to help -its not going to get you far around here.

However, i'm in the mood to be helpful. The yellow one you pictured is overpriced. The 996 turbo can be had for close to the same price, has a completely different motor, a proper and reliable turbo setup, the ability to handle much much more power, has proper intakes through the fenders and intercooler slats at the rear, comes with more features from the factory as standard, has wider fenders and wider tires.

Read up on the many differences. Turbos, exhausts, and other performance parts can be bought in the classifieds here for 25% of the new value from people who are going bigger. It can be cheap power if you are patient.
 
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Originally Posted by NOLA911
No, they are not. Watch the condescending attitude and cursing towards those who are trying to help -its not going to get you far around here.

However, i'm in the mood to be helpful. The yellow one you pictured is overpriced. The 996 turbo can be had for close to the same price, has a completely different motor, a proper and reliable turbo setup, the ability to handle much much more power, has proper intakes through the fenders and intercooler slats at the rear, comes with more features from the factory as standard, has wider fenders and wider tires.

Read up on the many differences. Turbos, exhausts, and other performance parts can be bought in the classifieds here for 25% of the new value from people who are going bigger. It can be cheap power if you are patient.
Actually I wasn't and he wasn't trying to help, hense his post.
 
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by some of your opening statements i suggest you to go test drive the closest 996tt and see really what kind of car your looking at.

in stock form they will take care of most encounters on the road let alone modified.

the 996 NA motor is not even close to the turbo motor (turbo motor comes from the GT1 race car program) the other is well something a C- student cobbled up with a bad IMS bearing design.

of course you can turbo anything but why spend 20k to have a car that is a ticking bomb to cost you 20k to rebuild. cheaper to buy a turbo from the factory.

in stock form this car will be a big jump in perofrmance from your camaro. and with a couple mods it makes a world of difference. flash 2k or less 3k or less for exhaust.

x50 turbo cars have a larger turbo stock that can be upgraded to a 18g compressor wheel very cheap. and this is the cheapest way to 600whp with supporting mods.

i was looking at muscle cars and imports when i drove a 996na for the first time after having a 760whp front wheel drive and many 600hp v8's and drag race atv's. With that first test drive of a non-turbo 996 i knew i was going to be buying a Porsche then searched and found a 996tt that fit the bill.

Go drive one then come back.
 
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Many 996turbos with well over 100,000 miles on the motor no problems but a few, do a search here and rennlist with catastrophic failure, that needed motor replacement.
25-30,000 for motor and 2000 install. My point is there is that potential for expense you don't have in a Camero.
 
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Many? What # would many be? But thanks for letting us know your talking about 100+K miles, I doubt there are but a hand full of 996Turbos w/ that many miles.
 


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