Currently looking to increase camber (front and rear) beyond what the stock set up will allow. Some friends have indicated concern about the control arm approach leading to engagement problems with the half shafts, especially on the front and have suggested the camber plate approach. Others, naturally indicated no problem.

I'll probably be moving to the Moton Clubsport setup over the winter. The car gets used mildly on the street and gets most of its mileage on the track.

Any experience out there, positive or negative would be appreciated.

Have a great Thanksgiving all !

 

Control arms for sure. No issued with half shafts. The issue is if the wrong sway bar and drop links are used. Great mod! Call RSS.

 

I had GT3 lower arms and shimmed out to -4 front and 3.5 in rear with no half shaft problems. This also widens the track width of the car by a small amount whereas the camber plates do not.

 

Nothing wrong with lower control arms. I think you may be talking about the front half shafts maybe popping loose with too much negative camber? Still not an issue unless you are running HUGE amounts of negative camber. Like -4.5 or something.

 

Running -2.9 degrees camber in the front with GT3 adjustable lower control arms with no problems at the track or on the street.

I was also told that you can run into problems with the half shaft popping out, but after doing lots of searches and seeing all the people running the GT3 arms without any problems I went with them.

 

Would a h&r sway bar and pss10's droplinks be the wrong combo?

Good question brought up by the op, I am thinking of the same and my ptech said I could get -1.5 with it. Tuned in.

 

Opps! I thought you were talking about plates not control arms. Plates seemed to be the lesser expensive option for me right now.

 

H&R will fit no problem because they are curved on the ends to go over the axle. GT-2/3 for example are straight so they hit the axle. H&R's are a bit stiff and heavy though. TPC, RSS and GMG have good light bars for your car too. With r-compound tires a stiff bar is nice. I love the PSS-10 for a street/track car. The included drop links are good.

 

I would trade my h&r but I need something light that's similar stiffness. Anyone know the weight difference?

 

You will need more than -1.5 degrees of camber in the front if you want to stop wearing out or cording the outside edges of your MPSC's, especially since you are running -1.8 degrees of camber in the rear, this setup will make your car really push and burn up your front tires quickly.

The GT3 or RSS adjustable lower control arms is the way to go if you are going to be tracking your car with R compounds.

 

Gt3 arms all day....you can set the wheels nicely in the gaurds with the bottom of the rim coming out instead of the top of the wheel pulling in. The plates are ok but they leave you with a wheel that sits too far in at the top of the gaurd so you then have to use wheel spacers to get the wheel to sit right in the gaurds...otherwise she starts looking a bit like a shopping trolley. Never heard of shafts falling out either .

 

I'm not sure of the weight difference but the GMG adjustable swaybars will be as stiff or stiffer than your H&R bar and they are hollow.

 

+1 on the lower arms. You can get up to -2.5 to 3 deg camber. Yeah H&R sways are solid. You can run mo-30 front and gt-3 rear. Hollow, cheap and with good front camber works well + rear is adjustable.

 

I think I will switch to a gt3 bar. But it would be nice to know the weight difference.

 

Thanks all for the great input !

The control arms are certainly the overwhelming favorite. I'll certainly update when I get it finished (after paying the Xmas bills)

Thanks and happy Thanksgiving to all.