Real world Intake results with dynos
#46
Originally posted by PorschePhd
If you enclose the box you reduce the size of the venturi as well. You reduce the size of the venturi you reduce the velocity. It is not limited based on flowbench and dnyo test. Close it in and it would not make the same power.
If you enclose the box you reduce the size of the venturi as well. You reduce the size of the venturi you reduce the velocity. It is not limited based on flowbench and dnyo test. Close it in and it would not make the same power.
#47
Originally posted by Zippy
I'm thinking this intake, along with the FVD Aluminum Intake Plenum will work nicely with the Stage 4GT programming (91 octane). The program seems to be a touch rich by examining the color (black) of the exhaust tips with the stock parts. Would you agree?
Mike
I'm thinking this intake, along with the FVD Aluminum Intake Plenum will work nicely with the Stage 4GT programming (91 octane). The program seems to be a touch rich by examining the color (black) of the exhaust tips with the stock parts. Would you agree?
Mike
Mike
#50
If i run the stage 4 programming, without headers, will the airbox give good results? Would you suggest something like this or am I better off going for the headers. I want less lag and more low end so what is your suggestion?
Lou
Lou
#52
Originally posted by PorschePhd
If you enclose the box you reduce the size of the venturi as well. You reduce the size of the venturi you reduce the velocity.
If you enclose the box you reduce the size of the venturi as well. You reduce the size of the venturi you reduce the velocity.
1) If the decklid seals the cone filter area from hot engine air, then the area is "closed". If the area is closed then it wouldn't make any difference if the area were closed by the decklid, or some other material.
2) It seems to me that the effect of the venturi in this EVO airbox is *lost* because of the greater area in the cone filter "box" post venturi. The air is accelarated *in* the venturi, but the area post venturi (the cone filter area) is larger than the venturi area, and therefore the air velocity slows back down.
#53
Lou,
The box works well on the level 4. I will try to post dynos.
Dock,
No, because if you cover it you can not seal it properly and second it still has to be smaller. The box is the exact size it has to be. It can not be any larger as it would push up on the lid. Enclose it and you would have a very thin walled unit and it would still be smaller.
Regardless of the after thoughts the dynos are not lying. Does the box work? Heck yes we have dynos after dynos to prove it. The thing that is different than any other box is the venturi.
I have some friends that were over at the shop this week and happen to be engineers for ProCharger. When we look at the results I asked them could they believe that. They laughed and said, Uh yea Stephen half of our kits have venturi built into them. It works. Look at Porsche's cup cars...they too have them.
The box works well on the level 4. I will try to post dynos.
Dock,
No, because if you cover it you can not seal it properly and second it still has to be smaller. The box is the exact size it has to be. It can not be any larger as it would push up on the lid. Enclose it and you would have a very thin walled unit and it would still be smaller.
Regardless of the after thoughts the dynos are not lying. Does the box work? Heck yes we have dynos after dynos to prove it. The thing that is different than any other box is the venturi.
I have some friends that were over at the shop this week and happen to be engineers for ProCharger. When we look at the results I asked them could they believe that. They laughed and said, Uh yea Stephen half of our kits have venturi built into them. It works. Look at Porsche's cup cars...they too have them.
#54
Originally posted by PorschePhd
No, because if you cover it you can not seal it properly and second it still has to be smaller. The box is the exact size it has to be. It can not be any larger as it would push up on the lid. Enclose it and you would have a very thin walled unit and it would still be smaller.
No, because if you cover it you can not seal it properly and second it still has to be smaller. The box is the exact size it has to be. It can not be any larger as it would push up on the lid. Enclose it and you would have a very thin walled unit and it would still be smaller.
As for enclosing the cone filter, there is no question it can be done correctly, with the resulting area being the same as the current one...I would guess though that it would be way more expensive to produce.
The EVO airbox seems like a real nice product that adds power, so my comments are with regard to the *why* it produces more power, and specifically the physics of the process.
#56
Stephen,
I have the GT2 wing with cut outs on both sides. From your pics it appears both boxes would collect outside air. What do you think?
Here are some current pics of what my set up looks like.
Note: The lid rubber gaskets seal both openings individually. The lid was built so the left intake feels left and the right intake feeds right. Hey, if you think the bumper is lightened, you ought to see what certain parts of the frame look like. Sorry but Rob won't allow me to post pics of that work.
Anyone spot the two rear nitrous purge vents in the second pic.
I have the GT2 wing with cut outs on both sides. From your pics it appears both boxes would collect outside air. What do you think?
Here are some current pics of what my set up looks like.
Note: The lid rubber gaskets seal both openings individually. The lid was built so the left intake feels left and the right intake feeds right. Hey, if you think the bumper is lightened, you ought to see what certain parts of the frame look like. Sorry but Rob won't allow me to post pics of that work.
Anyone spot the two rear nitrous purge vents in the second pic.
Last edited by cjv; 04-10-2005 at 07:50 PM.
#57
Originally posted by cjv
Stephen,
I have the GT2 wing with cut outs on both sides. From your pics it appears both boxes would collect outside air. What do you think?
Here are some current pics of what my set up lools like.
Stephen,
I have the GT2 wing with cut outs on both sides. From your pics it appears both boxes would collect outside air. What do you think?
Here are some current pics of what my set up lools like.
#58
Originally posted by sharkster
Hey man of course.. we can use mine as a template as I said
Hey man of course.. we can use mine as a template as I said
I was just looking for Stephen's take on it also. I'll be taking you up on your offer in late June or early July.
Last edited by cjv; 04-10-2005 at 10:37 PM.
#60
Originally posted by PorschePhd
The new system doesn't draw air from the outside. It is totally sealed except for the right side.
I would suspect that even with your setup the box is a good idea.
The new system doesn't draw air from the outside. It is totally sealed except for the right side.
I would suspect that even with your setup the box is a good idea.
Last edited by cjv; 04-11-2005 at 08:19 AM.