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Old 08-11-2011 | 05:23 PM
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Killed by 630hp Mustang GT500

Raced a 630 hp Mustang today in my 996tt and got killed like 4 or 5 times.

Thought it would be a piece of cake as I already killed a 700 hp V10 RS6 but it looks like these Mustang things are fast at high speeds.

K24/18G may be coming sooner than I thought.
 
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Old 08-11-2011 | 05:36 PM
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thats a no brainer, 630hp against what, 475 or so
 
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Old 08-11-2011 | 05:37 PM
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Well but then how can I explain beating 700hp V10 RS6, 4 times in a row?
 
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If the RS6 was making 700 at the flywheel, and the GT500 was making 630 at the rear wheels (which is a piece of cake on those cars), you are talking about two totally different levels of performance.

I ran a 630 rwhp GT500 in my GT2, and while I pulled it very hard, I was making 700ish rwhp at the time. That Mustang would have smashed a stock turbo car like yours.
 
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If the RS6 was making 700 at the flywheel, and the GT500 was making 630 at the rear wheels (which is a piece of cake on those cars), you are talking about two totally different levels of performance.

I ran a 630 rwhp GT500 in my GT2, and while I pulled it very hard, I was making 700ish rwhp at the time. That Mustang would have smashed a stock turbo car like yours.

As would a 700hp RS6 no matter where the hp is measured. I think it was broken.
 
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Old 08-11-2011 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Sql_pl
Well but then how can I explain beating 700hp V10 RS6, 4 times in a row?
probably not a real 700hp car, people exagerate #s all the time, if the Audi was making 700hp at the wheels he would crush you, sorry
 
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Old 08-11-2011 | 06:01 PM
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Oh, surely not at the wheels, a crank number for sure.

It had SKN remap and Milltek exhaust.
 
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Originally Posted by NOLA911
As would a 700hp RS6 no matter where the hp is measured. I think it was broken.
So giving the RS6 owner the benefit of the doubt that his car actually made 700 crank HP, I think the Porsche would still win. A 702 HP (at the crank) Audi MTM RS6 goes 100-200 km/h in 9.4 seconds. That's about 11 seconds from 60-130, which is quite slow. A 996TT with intake, exhaust and tune is definitely faster than that. Heck, a K16 996TT with just a tune will go 10.0 flat.

MTM-Audi RS6 R V10 5.0 Biturbo - 2008
0 - 80 km/h 3,3 s
0 - 100 km/h 4,3 s
0 - 120 km/h 5,7 s
0 - 130 km/h - s
0 - 140 km/h 7,3 s
0 - 160 km/h 8,9 s
0 - 180 km/h 11,1 s
0 - 200 km/h 13,7 s
 

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no kidding, very interesting. Is it the weight difference that makes the victor?
 
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heres a thought the local chp are taking people to jail for 30 over here in commie cal. now i gotta stay in 3rd gear
 
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Originally Posted by NOLA911
no kidding, very interesting. Is it the weight difference that makes the victor?
Weight certainly has an effect, but so does parasitic loss through the Audi's drivetrain. That's why crank HP is meaningless. All that matters is the amount of power that makes it to the wheels.
 
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I used to spank tt's in my 03 cobra all the time. No brainer. They are torque monsters if you can keep the feet on the ground. Especially with gears done.
 
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Originally Posted by Sql_pl
Raced a 630 hp Mustang today in my 996tt and got killed like 4 or 5 times.

Thought it would be a piece of cake as I already killed a 700 hp V10 RS6 but it looks like these Mustang things are fast at high speeds.

K24/18G may be coming sooner than I thought.
Is yours a k16 car or X50? Just curious...

Either way, the K24/18g upgrade will even things out for you.
 
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There's a guy with an RS6 that lives up here somewhere close in the mountains and we've raced up the roads a few times and he sounds stock and I have a hard time trying to push him. However, I think he has better gears (i.e. shorter) for the corners up here. They've fast cars stock but without a tune, american muscle can just kill things. I was just meeting in Houston with a guy in my company that has a Camaro tuned by Hennessey to 700+ WHP and he can hit almost 200 without much trouble. Cheap muscle and money for the speed.
 
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K24/18g's on pump may not be enough ...

may not be enough ..

Originally Posted by Sql_pl
Raced a 630 hp Mustang today in my 996tt and got killed like 4 or 5 times.

Thought it would be a piece of cake as I already killed a 700 hp V10 RS6 but it looks like these Mustang things are fast at high speeds.

K24/18G may be coming sooner than I thought.
 


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