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Rev issue: Hit 0.7 bar but not rev over 5Krpm in all gears...

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Old 09-01-2011, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by winnigt2
failures like this could have many sources

ignition: spark plugs or coils......issue is when boost ore torque comes into play


boost leak.....issue low boost or with big leak cel and no power

fuel pressure....issue most under boost

maf.....issue hesitation at acceleration/disconnect maf and try it again

you have to check all systematic with durametric and a little test equipment before you change parts/ LOOK AT LIFETIME DATA/LOG File durin
g failure
only sometimes you find exotic failures like worn cats/def ecu`s......
As I am going to track on Jan, so my thought is changing those parts is a must later on.....but they didn't resolve my issue, workshop just rang me and told me the problem still exists, the only part is the MAF they expected, which I didn't get it back yet....
 
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Is that the only code you have had:

0-36.5
P0175

Oxygen Sensing Adaptation, Idle Range, Bank 2 –
Below Limit
Diagnosis conditions
Oxygen sensing system active

Time elapsed after engine start-up: 250 to 350 seconds (USA)

Time elapsed after engine start-up: 302 to 402 seconds (RoW)

Engine temperature greater than 60 °C

Possible fault cause
Incorrect signal from MAF sensor

Fuel pressure too high

Fuel injector leaking

EVAP canister purge valve open

Affected terminals
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Diagnosis/Troubleshooting
If DTC P0445 (fuel tank vent valve - short to ground) is stored, correct this fault first. An open EVAP canister
purge valve can lead to the lean threshold being reached.

For vehicles in the USA, the upper load range will probably not be reached. The only case in which a fault could
be stored is during driving while towing a trailer or caravan on a hill.

Contrary adaptation values in connection with misfiring point to incorrectly adjusted control timescheck control
times and adjust if necessary.

If the fuel tank reserve light is switched on, no fault is entered.

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Or have you some more codes??

It does say Maf above, so may be worth at least trying one. I always keep a spare in the car, wrapped up in a small sweet tin. Just in case.lol



 
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Originally Posted by boyg
As I am going to track on Jan, so my thought is changing those parts is a must later on.....but they didn't resolve my issue, workshop just rang me and told me the problem still exists, the only part is the MAF they expected, which I didn't get it back yet....
if the maf did not work correct /disconnect maf and run engine with this quick test
 
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Originally Posted by Sunnyside
Is that the only code you have had:

0-36.5
P0175

Oxygen Sensing Adaptation, Idle Range, Bank 2 –
Below Limit
Diagnosis conditions
Oxygen sensing system active

Time elapsed after engine start-up: 250 to 350 seconds (USA)

Time elapsed after engine start-up: 302 to 402 seconds (RoW)

Engine temperature greater than 60 °C

Possible fault cause
Incorrect signal from MAF sensor

Fuel pressure too high

Fuel injector leaking

EVAP canister purge valve open

Affected terminals
-
Diagnosis/Troubleshooting
If DTC P0445 (fuel tank vent valve - short to ground) is stored, correct this fault first. An open EVAP canister
purge valve can lead to the lean threshold being reached.

For vehicles in the USA, the upper load range will probably not be reached. The only case in which a fault could
be stored is during driving while towing a trailer or caravan on a hill.

Contrary adaptation values in connection with misfiring point to incorrectly adjusted control timescheck control
times and adjust if necessary.

If the fuel tank reserve light is switched on, no fault is entered.

*********************************

Or have you some more codes??

It does say Maf above, so may be worth at least trying one. I always keep a spare in the car, wrapped up in a small sweet tin. Just in case.lol



Yes, this is the only code I have.
My suggestion having at the moment is going to MAF now...
 

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Originally Posted by winnigt2
if the maf did not work correct /disconnect maf and run engine with this quick test
Have just tried to unplug the MAF and it behaves the same, so sounds like not about it?

Hesitate since 4xxx rpm, keeps like missfire and not rev smooth.
 

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Besides, my workshop told me they seen some of the plugs are not burning in average, but there are too many reason causing this.
 
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For the MAF, I saw there is Bosch and one without brand, price is half, any idea?
 
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Originally Posted by boyg
Have just tried to unplug the MAF and it behaves the same, so sounds like not about it?

Hesitate since 4xxx rpm, keeps like missfire and not rev smooth.
the result tells at the moment the maf should work.....

next would test fpr....at the fuelfilter is a valve/connection to do that quick...test fuelpressure....if engine stand still 3,8bar activate fuelpump with with durametric.... under load test at street add boost 0.7=
bar....4,5bar....
 

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the result tells at the moment the maf should work.....

next would test fpr....at the fuelfilter is a valve/connection to do that quick...test fuelpressure....idle 3,8bar.... under load add boost 0.7=
bar....4,5bar....
Fuel pump and MAF are my workshop suggest to go next...
Unplug it and use meter to measure it?
 
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Originally Posted by boyg
Fuel pump and MAF are my workshop suggest to go next...
Unplug it and use meter to measure it?
use meter and do in line with the fuelhose....(engine stand still 3,8 bar...under load with added boost+ 0,7 bar= 4,5bar)
 

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i had the same problem,it was O2 sensor without any fault code in the memory,i datalogged the car and recognised that the bank 2 was running lean,and since i replaced it my problem is solved.
 
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Originally Posted by autodynamics
i had the same problem,it was O2 sensor without any fault code in the memory,i datalogged the car and recognised that the bank 2 was running lean,and since i replaced it my problem is solved.
that could be a problem too...correct....with datalog you must see different signals..so you can change left to right....(and if the failures goes to the other side you are shure the lambda is dead)
 
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Originally Posted by winnigt2
use meter and do in line with the fuelhose....(engine stand still 3,8 bar...under load with added boost+ 0,7 bar= 4,5bar)
Will have a try on weekend, under load which is pressing the pedal in natural shift?
 
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Originally Posted by autodynamics
i had the same problem,it was O2 sensor without any fault code in the memory,i datalogged the car and recognised that the bank 2 was running lean,and since i replaced it my problem is solved.
Thanks for advise, but you know, there were too many things come up with different owners resolving their similar issue on different parts..

Plugs - replaced
F hose - replaced
DVs - replaced
All turbo hose - replaced
Coils - replaced

............but my issue is still the same, poor me, so O2 sensors now in my list too.
 


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