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Old 01-12-2012 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by iLLM3
Drive both back to back... You won't even want to look at the 997 GT2 after driing. Ruf modified one, trust me... Only car I've ever kept for so long in my life, and it sounds gt3 esque through the rev range, nothing like a turbo at all ! Just an intoxicating build and feel

I wanted a 997 GT2 and drove one at champion in fla... It was so soft and subdued!
With all due respect Martin, I think calling a GT2 soft and subdued is really stretching it.

I have not driven a RUF 996 GT2, but I have driven a modified 996 GT2 and my 997 GT2 feels every bit as raw and poignant, but is much more cooperative through corners and much better at keeping itself stable at higher speeds. I'm not here to start a 996 vs 997 argument, but I will call a spade a spade.

The suspension setup on your GT2 is obviously much more oriented to the track while you are comparing it to a stock 997 GT2 setup. I suggest you drive a 997 GT2 with modified suspension similar to yours and I think you will be able to appreciate to what level you can take the 997 platform. I think it is very presumptuous to state that somehow your chassis is far superior to that of the 997 GT2 beyond any ability to overcome. Any 996 can be made "raw" versus a stock 997, but I think we all appreciate that the 997 is an forward evolutionary step from the 996 platform and did a lot to improve the 911 overall.

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Old 01-12-2012 | 05:35 PM
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Received a few PM's but unable to respond. Web informs me that I must have 15 posts to do so. As that may not happen for a while, I've taken the liberty of saving everyone's post. Nice vehicles, all.
Clarification: For the present I'm looking at rather than for another Porsche. It's been some time since owning one, so homework is required for an informed purchase.
Example: I don't as yet know the differences between 996's, 997's, GT2's, GT3's, etc. The 911S was my only Porsche. My exposure to RUF came from Lime Rock, Watkins Glen (back when they still had a Grand Prix), and LeMans (went to see the 917's on the Mulsanne, before the chicane).
Hope I haven't wasted anyone's time.
 
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Old 01-12-2012 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by iLLM3
I have that exact build car, bought from Ruf auto center and with over 15k into suspension, other misc upgrades too...

Mine has some miles on it but will be priced wayyyyyy below that

Let me know

Martin
You're not serious are you?
You're not really thinking of selling?

I LOVE your car!
 
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Old 01-12-2012 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcus Frost
With all due respect Martin, I think calling a GT2 soft and subdued is really stretching it.

I have not driven a RUF 996 GT2, but I have driven a modified 996 GT2 and my 997 GT2 feels every bit as raw and poignant, but is much more cooperative through corners and much better at keeping itself stable at higher speeds. I'm not here to start a 996 vs 997 argument, but I will call a spade a spade.

The suspension setup on your GT2 is obviously much more oriented to the track while you are comparing it to a stock 997 GT2 setup. I suggest you drive a 997 GT2 with modified suspension similar to yours and I think you will be able to appreciate to what level you can take the 997 platform. I think it is very presumptuous to state that somehow your chassis is far superior to that of the 997 GT2 beyond any ability to overcome. Any 996 can be made "raw" versus a stock 997, but I think we all appreciate that the 997 is an forward evolutionary step from the 996 platform and did a lot to improve the 911 overall.

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Hey Marcus, I think you are overstepping your boundaries and not necessarily comprehending that BACK TO BACK, my modded car versus a STOCK 997 GT2, made me prefer the raw factor of my car... I was not factoring what can be done to the 997 GT2, all that's done to my car, a stock 996 GT2 and platform, blah blah blah.... All I said was, driving them back to back I know which I preferred based off of my seat of the pants thrill and frills... I know the 997 GT2 platform/geometry or amazing, Excellence did a whole article on why it feels so 'soft' as I loosely put it, and it was because it was "THAT GOOD", meaning it's dampening effects jading it's overall performance based off a softer feel... Obviously it's not accurate and I wasn't assuming it was inferior, it's far SUPERIOR and technologically advanced..

On that note my comparison wasn't exactly apples to apples, but, it was just a preference based observation between the two... It's not often i'll get to ever see, be in, let alone DRIVE a 997 GT2 set up like mine... So it's hard to compare them both fully built and then assess them accurately... For the last time, this was merely my preference

Martin
 
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Old 01-12-2012 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Sinner Man
Thanks for all the honest replies. It's my understanding that some Sloan cars are under consignment and, as such, are negotiable unless the owner isn't in need of funds.
I'm just getting back into the game after a 40 hiatus. Upon reading the Porsche ad, "This Car Will Do 144MPH Longer Than You Can", I purchased a new '69 911S which had to be sold several years later but not before driving it to see the '71 McQueen movie along with other Porsche club drivers. We perceived ourselves to be so cool back then.
In those days RUF was a name I associated with excellent German engineering and still do. I'm certain the names I've read on this forum, Switzer, Protomotive, etc., produce great machines but after reading many posts one item keeps popping up; the more aftermarket mods, the greater the chance of problems.
At my age, I'm interested in a car SIMILAR to the Sloan car. One that left the factory with that level of HP, is in a country gentleman's color, has not been on a track, and would be relatively trouble free. This would satisfy the last itch. If the search produces nothing, there's always RAC/Dallas for a new RUF.
Apologies for not contributing to the forum. I've been away too long and have nothing of interest to offer.
Just FYI, RAC/Dallas not longer has anything to do with RUF. Their relationship with RUF ended last year and all of RUF products including complete cars are handled through Grandsport in Michigan. They are the exclusive importer/distributor for RUF Automobile GmbH. Talk to Mike Melville there at 248-304-9091. He is incredibly helpful and can steer you in the right direction if you are set on a RUF. He's got a brand new RT12R coming on to the states for a customer in the near future. Just a touch over $400K. I have a 2002 550 Rturbo that has had the full conversion done, basically everything that RUF makes. It may not be the fastest car out there but as a complete package it works extremely well. It's the way Porsche should have built these cars. It has been 100% reliable and a joy to own. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions. Good luck in your search...
 
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Old 01-13-2012 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ant_8u
You're not serious are you?
You're not really thinking of selling?

I LOVE your car!
I am toying with it, but just for other business opportunities :/ Otherwise, this car would and still may be kept forever!
 
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Old 01-14-2012 | 08:20 PM
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PWDRHOUND,

Appreciate the update. Your RT is my kind of car; stunning w/ an understated elegance.
Just located a white RT12. Having it researched.
Thanks again
 
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