Looking to buy a 996T in Houston- HELP!
#76
01-22-2012, 11:00 AM
Unlike u, I am giving specific examples and not just saying "oh yeah...well ur dumb and don't know what a clutch is"
I have explained how much you have spent vs a built tip owner and you don't seem to want to touch that nor the idea of a built tips reliability and consistency over a 6spd. Those 3 things are really all I am arguing but you keep going off on tangents (and i did too with PDK) and not countering my factual points. Powell knows how to argue with facts and experience and at least makes points that make me think instead of laugh!! And that's why most of us are all here...to learn, think, and question.
Bahrain996tt 900hp and 9.90sec from EVOMS a 997tip
Skeeter is building an 850whp 997tip form switzer
Emre says, and he builds the damn thing: "We have a pretty strong Tiptronic upgrade kit which is running on more than 17 cars so far..
It's exactly the same kit thats on my car, it has been proven to hold about ~1000hp without any issues.
I have tested this kit more than 30.000km on my personal 997tt. It will also shift much faster then the original Tip gearbox."
I realize these are 997 but there is little internal difference and the same guys doing 997 tips also do 996 tips.
And I can't stress enough...this is all done cheaper than 6spd.
I have explained how much you have spent vs a built tip owner and you don't seem to want to touch that nor the idea of a built tips reliability and consistency over a 6spd. Those 3 things are really all I am arguing but you keep going off on tangents (and i did too with PDK) and not countering my factual points. Powell knows how to argue with facts and experience and at least makes points that make me think instead of laugh!! And that's why most of us are all here...to learn, think, and question.
Bahrain996tt 900hp and 9.90sec from EVOMS a 997tip
Skeeter is building an 850whp 997tip form switzer
Emre says, and he builds the damn thing: "We have a pretty strong Tiptronic upgrade kit which is running on more than 17 cars so far..
It's exactly the same kit thats on my car, it has been proven to hold about ~1000hp without any issues.
I have tested this kit more than 30.000km on my personal 997tt. It will also shift much faster then the original Tip gearbox."
I realize these are 997 but there is little internal difference and the same guys doing 997 tips also do 996 tips.
And I can't stress enough...this is all done cheaper than 6spd.
Please, stick to the question, it is not asking about 997's, it is asking about 996's.
#77
01-22-2012, 11:10 AM
I certainly ope you are not referencing this thread:https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...rebuild-3.html
The cost was $6,231, not counting shipping and the airplane ride, and the shop would not guarantee that the tranny would handle high hp applications!
The cost was $6,231, not counting shipping and the airplane ride, and the shop would not guarantee that the tranny would handle high hp applications!
#78
01-22-2012, 01:05 PM
I certainly ope you are not referencing this thread:https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...rebuild-3.html
The cost was $6,231, not counting shipping and the airplane ride, and the shop would not guarantee that the tranny would handle high hp applications!
The cost was $6,231, not counting shipping and the airplane ride, and the shop would not guarantee that the tranny would handle high hp applications!
first of all, the cost for the tip was $5200 (he had $1000 in other work done). Which is ONCE AGAIN much better than the $10-$12000 that you have spent on yours, and only $1200 more than your clutch!!!! and just to be clear this was installation and removal, all parts, all labor, and fluids. not sure why you keep bringing up how cheap the tip upgrade is compared to yours, not a good argument!!
second they did give him a warranty "FixEuro's rebuild price quote included both the parts AND labor, including rebuilding the torque converter. They also have a 1 year, 12K mile warranty for the rebuild for no extra charge" if he didn't do TQ would have been $750 off.
third, they never said it wouldn't handle high power applications! just that they were not going to speculate about its limits. "FixEuro was very confident that my tiptronic will hold more torque than a stock unit, but did not feel prudent to try to give me a hp/torque figure (although I did wrangle Steve to feel comfortable estimating around 650-700 ft/lds of torque)" which is likely 700-750HP. I think most would agree this is a high power application. this is also the first built TIP this shop has ever done! to rate it to 650-750ft/lbs is likely very conservative on their part!
Lastly, there was no shipping charge indicated as it appears he drove it there and back. but yes I'm sure he did have to spend $150 on a plane ticket from south texas to north texas.
prices for tip rebuilds range from an introductory minimal build $3500 at vivid to full blown mac daddy builds $7500 at IPT...and i honestly don't recall what MKB price is (its up there). but why ship it to germany when 3,4,5 places do it here. Vivid also claims 900HP.... just for the record.
I'm sorry....what was your point?
#79
01-22-2012, 01:24 PM
I'm sure he will accept your offer as I am about to buy his seats and possibly his roll bar.
Jitsu,
i have had some experience, but not really on this level. I'm not really sure what experience would be adequate, but needless to say, I am coming into this with a healthy amount of respect.
It reminds me of the first time I got on a sportsbike when I was 17.
Currently I have a '63 Impala, a '72 cheyenne, an 06' RRS SC, an 05 M5 but I want this to be my daily.
I've had a couple 500rwhp+ GTE singled turbo lexus coupes and if we go back to the stone age, a couple 500rwhp 300ZX turbos (those cars are hard to handle, I totaled both of them)
Either way - Ben has to say yes first.. Albiet, I'm a bit scared that he does !
-a
i have had some experience, but not really on this level. I'm not really sure what experience would be adequate, but needless to say, I am coming into this with a healthy amount of respect.
It reminds me of the first time I got on a sportsbike when I was 17.
Currently I have a '63 Impala, a '72 cheyenne, an 06' RRS SC, an 05 M5 but I want this to be my daily.
I've had a couple 500rwhp+ GTE singled turbo lexus coupes and if we go back to the stone age, a couple 500rwhp 300ZX turbos (those cars are hard to handle, I totaled both of them)
Either way - Ben has to say yes first.. Albiet, I'm a bit scared that he does !
-a
#81
01-22-2012, 03:45 PM
That is good because your argument is not supported by any evidence/facts. There is not one 996 tiptronic capable of handling 1K hp (my 6 speed will, by the way...it is now a racing tranny).
There are 997s, but that is because the platform is better suited and the r and d coasts were already done. To build a tip that will be as strong as my tranny would run over 10K (ask Akram at Mwerks, or Steve Ott or anyone else who is knowledgeable like Brian Copain, G box etc).
Good luck building one that does, and when you are ready we can line them up and settle this matter (and of course see how things hold up after that).
I am not going to post anymore because you are impervious to facts and would prefer to live in your fantasy world.
There are 997s, but that is because the platform is better suited and the r and d coasts were already done. To build a tip that will be as strong as my tranny would run over 10K (ask Akram at Mwerks, or Steve Ott or anyone else who is knowledgeable like Brian Copain, G box etc).
Good luck building one that does, and when you are ready we can line them up and settle this matter (and of course see how things hold up after that).
I am not going to post anymore because you are impervious to facts and would prefer to live in your fantasy world.
#83
01-22-2012, 08:08 PM
#1 You're selling the TIP short in this statement because it's simply not true. I have videos to prove that my 16/16g tip with even less WHP was faster than a 24/18 6 Speed. This was because there was ZERO boost loss between shifts AND the drivetrain loss was a non-factor. A 550WHP TIP will always beat a 550WHP six speed period. 
#2 Yes my tip was stock and I rebulit it to stock again ($6000). But, again when I felt the slightest slip in 3rd to 4th gear, I de-modded the car and sold it. I may have kept the car if there were the TIPTRONIC options available at the time like you have now. There is only one other 996 Tip faster than mine but its a 24/20 car and has the latest moddified TIP innovations to boot.
#3 Not sure what you mean by this statement.
#2 Yes my tip was stock and I rebulit it to stock again ($6000). But, again when I felt the slightest slip in 3rd to 4th gear, I de-modded the car and sold it. I may have kept the car if there were the TIPTRONIC options available at the time like you have now. There is only one other 996 Tip faster than mine but its a 24/20 car and has the latest moddified TIP innovations to boot.
#3 Not sure what you mean by this statement.
1)Todd, a 550 WHP Tip car is putting out almost 800 HP to the crank while the manual is closer to 700 HP, so of course the tiptronic should win, but the tiptronic had to put more mods on the car.
2)I am not sure why you are making something up...you charged me $3,500 to have my tip rebuilt to OEM and I know your costs was under $2k. IPT and Renntech have been doing the modifications to Mercedes transmissions for many years, including the time you had your car. You chose not to have it done.
#84
01-22-2012, 09:01 PM
No worries on the jacking. This thread is pretty well boned.
I recommend everyone go back and research their respective positions and reignite this topic in its own all new subject line so everyone can join the fun whilst I shop for a GT3 wing and wheels =)
-a
I recommend everyone go back and research their respective positions and reignite this topic in its own all new subject line so everyone can join the fun whilst I shop for a GT3 wing and wheels =)
-a
#86
01-22-2012, 10:20 PM
I'm really hard on my wheels so I think for a silver car a 19 or 20" RUF replica wheel would fit the bill best.
If I can't find something like that then I'll likely scour the FS for a nice multipiece forged 19" wheel which seem to be fairly common.
If I can't find something like that then I'll likely scour the FS for a nice multipiece forged 19" wheel which seem to be fairly common.
#87
01-23-2012, 09:53 AM
nizzki,
I made an offer on ben's car. Its more car than i was looking for, but I can't pass up the opportunity. He has been in Vegas so no answer yet, but I suspect in a few short days, that beast is mine.
As for the houston car, the sales person and I got off on the wrong foot, and the mountain of horrendous reviews about the dealership has convinced me that it isn't the car for me. Call me crazy but, I think the buying experience is a big part of getting a new car. I wouldn't buy the 'right' car if I had to give my money to an a**hole.
I guess i'm old school about the principle of it all.
-a
I made an offer on ben's car. Its more car than i was looking for, but I can't pass up the opportunity. He has been in Vegas so no answer yet, but I suspect in a few short days, that beast is mine.
As for the houston car, the sales person and I got off on the wrong foot, and the mountain of horrendous reviews about the dealership has convinced me that it isn't the car for me. Call me crazy but, I think the buying experience is a big part of getting a new car. I wouldn't buy the 'right' car if I had to give my money to an a**hole.
I guess i'm old school about the principle of it all.
-a
#88
01-23-2012, 10:03 AM
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As far as wheels go, I prefer the look of 18s
Most people here would say 19s look better though
20s are definitely too big though (IMO)
Right now I've got a real thing for RUF modular wheels
(the split rims)
I think they look amazing, but if you're hard on wheels they might not be great
Most people here would say 19s look better though
20s are definitely too big though (IMO)
Right now I've got a real thing for RUF modular wheels
(the split rims)
I think they look amazing, but if you're hard on wheels they might not be great
#89
01-23-2012, 10:05 AM
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A,
Emailed you this a.m. Steve is going to get the car through the final inspection you requested. I'll send the results as soon as I have them. I'm hoping it's no later than tomorrow afternoon. I suspect it will be tomorrow a.m. After that I don't see anything getting in the way. I'll follow up again with results in the a.m.
Thanks again for all of the kind words in this thread. It makes the money spent on the car a little more bearable when the praise comes like this.
