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Really depends on the set up. My Switzer E1K GTR makes 962awtrq and 991 awhp.
E85 will make much more torque of course. I'm talking about real pumpgas and race fuel
 
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Originally Posted by BlackHorseTurbo
Actually, my car and Divexxtreme's GTR are nearly identical in performance from 100-150. He makes 927whp I think.
927 was uncorrected in winter (Buschur's dyno only reads uncorrected). More often than not, I'm probably at 875 awhp and 750 awtq.
 
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Originally Posted by MannschaftQ8
Mike is just unlucky .
So how do u compare ur car with 800-900whp GTR's? Are they REALLY fast vs your car?
I believe the main advantage on our cars is torque which really help unlike GTR's. For 800ft/lbs Porsche need 860-900whp and GTR need near 1000whp.

The huge advantage on GTR's is quick shifting and power climb to higher rpm range ( 7800-8000rpm )
My car could make more torque than horsepower if Switzer wanted it to. But I'm running stock 2nd - 6th gears, so torque was kept below 750 on purpose for reliability.
 
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Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
927 was uncorrected in winter (Buschur's dyno only reads uncorrected). More often than not, I'm probably at 875 awhp and 750 awtq.
I thought Buschur mustang Dyno read lower than other Mustang dynos.
 
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Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
My car could make more torque than horsepower if Switzer wanted it to. But I'm running stock 2nd - 6th gears, so torque was kept below 750 on purpose for reliability.
I understand. My point that the gap between HP and tq on GTR is bigger than Porsche.

High HP GTR including your old R1K-X GTR
http://www.dragtimes.com/Nissan--GT-R-Dyno-Sheets.html

Am I right?

Since you u had couple of fast Porsches before. Where do u see advantages of Porsche cars over GTR?
 
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Originally Posted by MannschaftQ8
I thought Buschur mustang Dyno read lower than other Mustang dynos.
Sometimes it does.
 
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Originally Posted by MannschaftQ8
I understand. My point that the gap between HP and tq on GTR is bigger than Porsche.

High HP GTR including your old R1K-X GTR

Am I right?

Since you u had couple of fast Porsches before. Where do u see advantages of Porsche cars over GTR?
That is by design. In other words the GTR tuners do it on purpose. Keeping torque down prevents stuff from breaking. No need for massive amounts of torque when you make 1250 whp.

Advantages of Porsches are stronger engine and driveline components from the factory, less frontal area, less weight, better paint, better overall build quality, and the option of a manual transmission when you want to row gears.
 

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Originally Posted by BlackHorseTurbo
Actually, my car and Divexxtreme's GTR are nearly identical in performance from 100-150. He makes 927whp I think.
So both of you Ran 100-150 in 4.4sec?
 
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Originally Posted by MannschaftQ8
So both of you Ran 100-150 in 4.4sec?
I ran 60-130 in 4.3. He ran 60-130 in 4.8.

I ran 100-150 in 5.1. He ran 100-150 in 5.2.

The cars would be extremely close in a head to head race.
 

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Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
That is by design. In other words the GTR tuners do it on purpose. Keeping torque down prevents stuff from breaking. No need for massive amounts of torque when you make 1250 whp.

Advantages of Porsches are stronger engine and driveline components from the factory, less frontal area, less weight, better paint, better overall build quality, and the option of a manual transmission when you want to row gears.
I know all that lol! I'm talking about performance comparo
Joe EVOMS 996tt with 1000whp ran 100-300kmh in 10's ( 0-300kmh in 14's ). What kind of 100-300kmh or 0-300kmh 1000awhp GTR
would ran you think?
With all those 1000whp GTR's we couldn't know how fast they ran 0-300 or 100-300kmh
 
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Originally Posted by MannschaftQ8
I know all that lol! I'm talking about performance comparo
Joe EVOMS 996tt with 1000whp ran 100-300kmh in 10's ( 0-300kmh in 14's ). What kind of 100-300kmh or 0-300kmh 1000awhp GTR
would ran you think?
With all those 1000whp GTR's we couldn't know how fast they ran 0-300 or 100-300kmh
Joe ran 100-150 in 3.82. Switzer R1K (1000 awhp) did it in 3.71.

Don't have 0-300 kmh data. Sorry.
 
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Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
That is by design. In other words the GTR tuners do it on purpose. Keeping torque down prevents stuff from breaking. No need for massive amounts of torque when you make 1250 whp.

Advantages of Porsches are stronger engine and driveline components from the factory, less frontal area, less weight, better paint, better overall build quality, and the option of a manual transmission when you want to row gears.
Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
I ran 60-130 in 4.3. He ran 60-130 in 4.8.

I ran 100-150 in 5.1. He ran 100-150 in 5.2.

The cars would be extremely close in a head to head race.
That's what on 6speedonline 100-150mph list

2.68 - AMS GT-R Alpha Omega 1600 whp
2.77 - HoustonT, UGR TTG, 1550 rwhp
2.92 - UGR Nera TT Gallardo / 1550 rwhp
3.10 - AMS Alpha-12 GT-R, 1309 whp
3.24 - Divexxtreme, Switzer R1KX GT-R, 1248 whp
3.71 - Switzer R1K GT-R, 1030 whp
3.81 - 1swtride / C6 Z06 / built 427, YSI blower, 1080rwhp, auto
3.82 - joetwint, Evoms 996TT, 1,000 whp
3.90 - KPG, EVOMS 996TT E85, 900whp
4.20 - Besiktas, 997TT Built Tip and motor
4.41 - Corvette Z06 TT by AVK Servis
4.41 - BlackHorseturbo, 996TT Proto <--------
4.43 - jbsteven, Ford GT TT/SC
4.48 - Divexxtreme, Protomotive 996TT, 900 whp
 
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Originally Posted by MannschaftQ8
That's what on 6speedonline 100-150mph list

2.68 - AMS GT-R Alpha Omega 1600 whp
2.77 - HoustonT, UGR TTG, 1550 rwhp
2.92 - UGR Nera TT Gallardo / 1550 rwhp
3.10 - AMS Alpha-12 GT-R, 1309 whp
3.24 - Divexxtreme, Switzer R1KX GT-R, 1248 whp
3.71 - Switzer R1K GT-R, 1030 whp
3.81 - 1swtride / C6 Z06 / built 427, YSI blower, 1080rwhp, auto
3.82 - joetwint, Evoms 996TT, 1,000 whp
3.90 - KPG, EVOMS 996TT E85, 900whp
4.20 - Besiktas, 997TT Built Tip and motor
4.41 - Corvette Z06 TT by AVK Servis
4.41 - BlackHorseturbo, 996TT Proto <--------
4.43 - jbsteven, Ford GT TT/SC
4.48 - Divexxtreme, Protomotive 996TT, 900 whp
His 5.2 was done during the Dallas race on Sunday. My 5.1 was done on the street on Monday. That's what we were comparing. Not our best ever times.

When I ran my 4.3 60-130, my 100-150 would have been mid 4's but I let out of it. Is the fact that our cars are close what you are debating? I'm confused as to where you're going with all of this.
 

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Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
His 5.2 was done during the Dallas race on Sunday. My 5.1 was done on the street on Monday. That's what we were comparing. Not our best ever times.

When I ran my 4.3 60-130, my 100-150 would have been mid 4's but I let out of it. Is the fact that our cars are close what you are debating? I'm confused as to where you're going with all of this.
No debating. I'm just asking and learning.
 
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The weekend wasn't trouble free for Mike and I. We had trailer issues. Both of us blew a tire.

Turns out, we both could have driven there and back with the Pcars. Some pics from the even (iphone and others):

MY TRAILER


Mike's Trailer:


The line up going into the semi finals:


MBailey and BHT


Left to right; OhioGT2, HoustonT, Mullet and RCC


Steven from LMR doing work!


Event organizer: Amar


Preparing Peter's TTG


Ivan (on the right) and the boys from AMS


OlBetz


Jaimie's SL


SW's TTG






Lunch time Skydivers


Ballers


Private Jet hard parked in the back ground
 

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