996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

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Old 05-24-2012 | 07:06 PM
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Maybe look into this, I had similar floaty nose in high speed turns, felt like the front was barely on the ground - f1crazydriver now in part with/of EBWorks exhaust made them
Yeah but no...
There is not a chance in Gods green earth that would I bolt a 8 lb piece of aluminum to the front of my car. If it was carbon honey comb it would likely be less then 1 lb and it would not bend the frame of the car if you bumped a curb or a steep driveway enterance.


I will be making a carbon splitter, some dive planes and a rear wing for my car when I get some time, but untill then I have light nose.



Originally Posted by Duane996tt
You can also take all the rubber out of the lower control arms and top shock mounts. Rear adjustable toe steer links become neccessary as the stock eccentrics don't have enough adjustment. These work well in conjunction with the dog bones. I think your better off having the coil overs done with the dog bones has you just paying for installation and an alignment twice. You can also get the car corner balanced. With all the stiffening going on, you're going to start snapping stock drops links so budget for some adjustable ones. The motor mounts and tranny mount also have too much give and should be replaced There are several options available and not very costly. These are easy DYI projects. The stock shifter is too vague, upgrade to the 997SS (a simple but time consuming DYI, but at least you don't get dirty)
I am not paying for the installation at all as I have the ability to do all that myself, the only extra cost is a second alignment. For me all this is R&D to see what helps what. Also in the mix engine and tranny mounts and shifter will be done.
 
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Old 05-24-2012 | 09:57 PM
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I have the rear adjustable toe lock kit, but no dog bones. Not sure on what alignment specs I have, but will start with an alignment and go from there.
 
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Get an adj rear sway bar and alignment from a good shop.
 
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I have H&R springs and the car scary to drive over 70mph..Need 2 hands on the wheel at all times. Whatever you do, do not buy springs..... I'm gonna go back to stock suspension this weekend until I order a full suspension set up!
My e46 m3 handles like an F1 compare to the TT.....
 
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Old 05-25-2012 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by hasauto
I have H&R springs and the car scary to drive over 70mph..Need 2 hands on the wheel at all times. Whatever you do, do not buy springs..... I'm gonna go back to stock suspension this weekend until I order a full suspension set up!
My e46 m3 handles like an F1 compare to the TT.....
The majority of spring/shock combos for the Turbo aren't a great upgrade like they are to the NA cars. There are a few out there that are good, but if you don't do the struts at the same time you're only going to decrease the handling as you found out due to the shocks being so far out of their normal and effective operating range. If you'd paired some Bilstein HD shocks with your springs I bet you'd have a different opinion.
 
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Old 05-25-2012 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by TTurbRon
Get an adj rear sway bar and alignment from a good shop.
Yes definitely this is what I posted as well, though I'd highly recommend changing the front bar too.
 
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Old 05-25-2012 | 01:31 PM
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Negative toe-in (toe-out) will give a very "flighty" drive. You might not notice it until the wiggle results in a few feet of lateral movement - happens real fast at high speed and gets your attention.

Any suspension work requires an alignment. I doubt new springs "caused" problems as much as the new alignment resulted in a change in chassis setup.

Going from about 0.1 toe-out to 0.1 toe-in made a remarkable difference. The flighty feeling was gone but turn-in was still crisp. That much difference made such a difference.

So first, get a good alignment from a shop that works on Porsche and knows what what you mean when you say "corner balance". If they say "whut?" take it elsewhere.
 
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Originally Posted by code7rpd
Since this topic has been brought up I have a similar problem. I have KW V3's, Tarret tie rods, and their rear toe lock kit. The car is a GT2 height with rebound and compression settings in the middle of the adjustment range. I am running 19" DPE wheels with tire pressure set to 40 rear and 36 front. At 70-80 mph it feels squirrelly and jittery. The alignment was done at a reputable shop, so I am not sure what the problem could be.

Any advice or ideas on what my alignment settings should be?
Besides the alignment don't overlook aero; the car should be raked down rear to the front (lower at the front than back). I've been told this effect is exaggerated with additional factory aero. I'm running 19's with KW coil overs, my car was more nervous at speed when I had less rake. I also softened the dampers for the rough roads in Phoenix, If you're running the 25 series rubber like me you need to soften up something else.
 
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