Has Anyone Seen Michelin PS2 315/25/19's?
#18
Don't hold your breath in 315's coming in soon. We have had them on order since the first of the year and have had no news on a production schedule since. Tumbleweeds from Michelin, I'm afraid. Same with the Yokohama Advan Sport.
I know Toyo has the T1-R in that size, but we don't carry it. It may be worth trying to source elsewhere if in a pinch.
I also have doubts it will be made in the Super Sport. Aside from 19" 996 fitments, the market really does not have much demand for this size anymore otherwise.
Not much good news, sorry!
I know Toyo has the T1-R in that size, but we don't carry it. It may be worth trying to source elsewhere if in a pinch.
I also have doubts it will be made in the Super Sport. Aside from 19" 996 fitments, the market really does not have much demand for this size anymore otherwise.
Not much good news, sorry!
Hey Damon,
Since we are running low on tire choices. What are the other preferred options for the people daring to live on the edge of close fitment? Any of these options better then the other?
(F)235/40 or (F)225/40 -- (R)305/30
(F)245/35 -- (R)295/30
(F)245/35 -- (R)305/30
#19
I was recommended 235/35/19 with the rears being 305/30/19 by Champion MS. I have full faith in them
#21
Please don't take this the wrong way as I mean no disrespect but obviously you have no idea how our very basic purely mechanical viscous clutch AWD system works. Champion specializes in 997s but they should know better. The sizes they quoted you are for a 997tt which uses a totally different electronic AWD system. The 996tt relies on a specific tire size ratio front to rear to function properly. Do as you wish however.....It is your car...
#22
I respect what you said. What do you think is the Option?
#23
Please don't take this the wrong way as I mean no disrespect but obviously you have no idea how our very basic purely mechanical viscous clutch AWD system works. Champion specializes in 997s but they should know better. The sizes they quoted you are for a 997tt which uses a totally different electronic AWD system. The 996tt relies on a specific tire size ratio front to rear to function properly. Do as you wish however.....It is your car...
#24
A 235/35/19 (25.5"tall) and a 305/30/19 (26.3"tall) is not the option as the rear is 0.8" taller than the front. I am not sure why Champion is recommending this 997 combo. Ask whoever is telling you to use this to explain how the AWD system works on a 996tt and I suspect you will get a blank stare. Ask them to explain to you how the AWD 996tt system with identical final drive ratios could transfer torque to the front with a taller rear tire.
I just recently put Michelin 235/35/19 (25.5"tall) and 315/25/19 (25.2"tall) PS2s on my car which has 9/12" wheels. In my case I can't put anything narrower than a 305 in the rear. If I were to put a set of new tires on a AWD 996tt with 19s I would put the new Michelin Pilot Super Sports in a 305/30/19 (26.3"tall) and pair it with a 235/40/19 (26.4"tall) that way I was running a front tire that is just a tiny bit taller that the rear. As long as the rear is rotating just a tiny hair faster than the front, this assures that the viscous coupler is constantly transferring a small amount of static torque to the front. Remember, our cars use identical 3.44 final drive ratios both front and rear so we are relying purely on a difference in the rate of rotation front to rear to transfer torque. That's why Porsche will tell you that the faster you go the more torque is transferred to the front up to approximately 40%. This makes perfect sense because the faster you go the greater the difference between the rate of rotation between the front and rear. As the rears are rotating faster they are driving the fronts through the hardened silicone fluid in the viscous coupler. Most people can't seem to wrap their heads around this concept as they don't understand how a viscous coupler functions.
The 235/40/19 and 305/30/19 combo will work but your clearances will be very tight, especially in the front at the forward fender liner where you have the "bubble" for the radiator bracket. Proper wheel offset will be key or you may have to mod the bracket a little bit which is not that hard to do and was describe by someone on this forum before. A 225/40/19 (26.1"tall) and a 295/30/19 (26.0"tall) would give you a bit more clearance while still giving you the proper ratio front to rear. Hope this helps
I just recently put Michelin 235/35/19 (25.5"tall) and 315/25/19 (25.2"tall) PS2s on my car which has 9/12" wheels. In my case I can't put anything narrower than a 305 in the rear. If I were to put a set of new tires on a AWD 996tt with 19s I would put the new Michelin Pilot Super Sports in a 305/30/19 (26.3"tall) and pair it with a 235/40/19 (26.4"tall) that way I was running a front tire that is just a tiny bit taller that the rear. As long as the rear is rotating just a tiny hair faster than the front, this assures that the viscous coupler is constantly transferring a small amount of static torque to the front. Remember, our cars use identical 3.44 final drive ratios both front and rear so we are relying purely on a difference in the rate of rotation front to rear to transfer torque. That's why Porsche will tell you that the faster you go the more torque is transferred to the front up to approximately 40%. This makes perfect sense because the faster you go the greater the difference between the rate of rotation between the front and rear. As the rears are rotating faster they are driving the fronts through the hardened silicone fluid in the viscous coupler. Most people can't seem to wrap their heads around this concept as they don't understand how a viscous coupler functions.
The 235/40/19 and 305/30/19 combo will work but your clearances will be very tight, especially in the front at the forward fender liner where you have the "bubble" for the radiator bracket. Proper wheel offset will be key or you may have to mod the bracket a little bit which is not that hard to do and was describe by someone on this forum before. A 225/40/19 (26.1"tall) and a 295/30/19 (26.0"tall) would give you a bit more clearance while still giving you the proper ratio front to rear. Hope this helps
#26
stock 997 sizes have the rear being .5" inch taller then the front with that being worked into the design of the 997 AWD. 997 AWD is compeltely different and superiro to the 996.
997TT tire sizes will definetly chew up your front diff. so the 305/30 is too tall
245/35/19 and 295/30/19 will work fine.
225/40/19 and 295/30/19 as well as 305/30/19 will work fine too.
997TT tire sizes will definetly chew up your front diff. so the 305/30 is too tall
245/35/19 and 295/30/19 will work fine.
225/40/19 and 295/30/19 as well as 305/30/19 will work fine too.
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997TT SlowBerry - 205.0 mph 1/2 Mile WR Nov 2018, 9.7 @ 170 mph 1/4 Mile , 3.2 60-130 mph , 2.4 100-150 mph , 1420whp E85
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#27
A 235/35/19 (25.5"tall) and a 305/30/19 (26.3"tall) is not the option as the rear is 0.8" taller than the front. I am not sure why Champion is recommending this 997 combo. Ask whoever is telling you to use this to explain how the AWD system works on a 996tt and I suspect you will get a blank stare. Ask them to explain to you how the AWD 996tt system with identical final drive ratios could transfer torque to the front with a taller rear tire.
I just recently put Michelin 235/35/19 (25.5"tall) and 315/25/19 (25.2"tall) PS2s on my car which has 9/12" wheels. In my case I can't put anything narrower than a 305 in the rear. If I were to put a set of new tires on a AWD 996tt with 19s I would put the new Michelin Pilot Super Sports in a 305/30/19 (26.3"tall) and pair it with a 235/40/19 (26.4"tall) that way I was running a front tire that is just a tiny bit taller that the rear. As long as the rear is rotating just a tiny hair faster than the front, this assures that the viscous coupler is constantly transferring a small amount of static torque to the front. Remember, our cars use identical 3.44 final drive ratios both front and rear so we are relying purely on a difference in the rate of rotation front to rear to transfer torque. That's why Porsche will tell you that the faster you go the more torque is transferred to the front up to approximately 40%. This makes perfect sense because the faster you go the greater the difference between the rate of rotation between the front and rear. As the rears are rotating faster they are driving the fronts through the hardened silicone fluid in the viscous coupler. Most people can't seem to wrap their heads around this concept as they don't understand how a viscous coupler functions.
The 235/40/19 and 305/30/19 combo will work but your clearances will be very tight, especially in the front at the forward fender liner where you have the "bubble" for the radiator bracket. Proper wheel offset will be key or you may have to mod the bracket a little bit which is not that hard to do and was describe by someone on this forum before. A 225/40/19 (26.1"tall) and a 295/30/19 (26.0"tall) would give you a bit more clearance while still giving you the proper ratio front to rear. Hope this helps
I just recently put Michelin 235/35/19 (25.5"tall) and 315/25/19 (25.2"tall) PS2s on my car which has 9/12" wheels. In my case I can't put anything narrower than a 305 in the rear. If I were to put a set of new tires on a AWD 996tt with 19s I would put the new Michelin Pilot Super Sports in a 305/30/19 (26.3"tall) and pair it with a 235/40/19 (26.4"tall) that way I was running a front tire that is just a tiny bit taller that the rear. As long as the rear is rotating just a tiny hair faster than the front, this assures that the viscous coupler is constantly transferring a small amount of static torque to the front. Remember, our cars use identical 3.44 final drive ratios both front and rear so we are relying purely on a difference in the rate of rotation front to rear to transfer torque. That's why Porsche will tell you that the faster you go the more torque is transferred to the front up to approximately 40%. This makes perfect sense because the faster you go the greater the difference between the rate of rotation between the front and rear. As the rears are rotating faster they are driving the fronts through the hardened silicone fluid in the viscous coupler. Most people can't seem to wrap their heads around this concept as they don't understand how a viscous coupler functions.
The 235/40/19 and 305/30/19 combo will work but your clearances will be very tight, especially in the front at the forward fender liner where you have the "bubble" for the radiator bracket. Proper wheel offset will be key or you may have to mod the bracket a little bit which is not that hard to do and was describe by someone on this forum before. A 225/40/19 (26.1"tall) and a 295/30/19 (26.0"tall) would give you a bit more clearance while still giving you the proper ratio front to rear. Hope this helps
#28
stock 997 sizes have the rear being .5" inch taller then the front with that being worked into the design of the 997 AWD. 997 AWD is compeltely different and superiro to the 996.
997TT tire sizes will definetly chew up your front diff. so the 305/30 is too tall
245/35/19 and 295/30/19 will work fine.
225/40/19 and 295/30/19 as well as 305/30/19 will work fine too.
997TT tire sizes will definetly chew up your front diff. so the 305/30 is too tall
245/35/19 and 295/30/19 will work fine.
225/40/19 and 295/30/19 as well as 305/30/19 will work fine too.
#29
[quote=JayAndreTT;3575028]The local Porsche mechanic told me that what sizes I have now are fine, QUOTE]
Will he pay for your front diff when it fails or will you just go RWD ?
I would start by conacting the people that sold you tire sizes that do not work on your car. There are a ton of thread on this. Ona 996tt you want the heights to be as close to identical as possible.
Will he pay for your front diff when it fails or will you just go RWD ?
I would start by conacting the people that sold you tire sizes that do not work on your car. There are a ton of thread on this. Ona 996tt you want the heights to be as close to identical as possible.
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996TT SpoolBus - 204.6 mph 1/2 Mile 996TT WR Aug 2018, 9.5 @ 154 mph, 3.23 60-130 mph, 2.5 100-150 mph Manual Porsche World Record, 1400whp E85
997TT SlowBerry - 205.0 mph 1/2 Mile WR Nov 2018, 9.7 @ 170 mph 1/4 Mile , 3.2 60-130 mph , 2.4 100-150 mph , 1420whp E85
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997TT SilverSpool - 210.8 mph 1/2 Mile WR Apr 2019, 9.2 @ 168 mph 1/4 Mile Manual World Record , 3.15 60-130 mph , 2.72 100-150 mph , 1400whp E85
996TT SpoolBus - 204.6 mph 1/2 Mile 996TT WR Aug 2018, 9.5 @ 154 mph, 3.23 60-130 mph, 2.5 100-150 mph Manual Porsche World Record, 1400whp E85
997TT SlowBerry - 205.0 mph 1/2 Mile WR Nov 2018, 9.7 @ 170 mph 1/4 Mile , 3.2 60-130 mph , 2.4 100-150 mph , 1420whp E85
ESMOTOR | DO88 | TPC DSC | SYVECS | COBB | IPD | KLINE | XONA | AMS | ID | ERP | SACHS | TURBOSMART | CSF | DODSON |
#30
[quote=prodigymb;3575032]
They are pretty stubborn in that they claim the fitment is fine. Guess I should return them and just get a new set despite what they say?
The local Porsche mechanic told me that what sizes I have now are fine, QUOTE]
Will he pay for your front diff when it fails or will you just go RWD ?
I would start by conacting the people that sold you tire sizes that do not work on your car. There are a ton of thread on this. Ona 996tt you want the heights to be as close to identical as possible.
Will he pay for your front diff when it fails or will you just go RWD ?
I would start by conacting the people that sold you tire sizes that do not work on your car. There are a ton of thread on this. Ona 996tt you want the heights to be as close to identical as possible.