Looking to replace my brake pads, Any suggestions for a aggressive street pad?
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06-26-2012 | 02:17 PM
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I have the following pads on my Rturbo with 6 pot front calipers and 4 pot rears using slotted floating 350mm rotors front and rear.
Pagid yellow 19s: Dusted like crazy, noisy as heck, sensitive to proper bed in, mediocre performance on the street, decent on the track but get mushy after they are worn down past 50%
Cool carbons: Average dust, fairly quiet, mediocre performance on the street, terrible performance on the track (after a few 30 minute sessions the brake pads material basically crumbled apart and started chunking badly at the edges. I would not recommend these for the track for anything but a novice driver. If you are a driver in any of the upper groups like orange or black these will not work.
Endless MX72: Extremely low dust, very quiet, very good performance on the street and good on the track for 25 min sessions. This is a fantastic all around pad but quite pricey. If I recall, they were around $750 for the set but that was for the 6 pots.. For a street car that does occasional DE this is my favorite pad. Endless makes some very good pads from entry level stuff up to $2K+ enduro pads.
Performance friction 08 front and 06 rear: Average dust (less than OEM), fairly quiet, fantastic performance on both the street and track. This is my favorite track pad by far but what surprised my is how good they work on the street with excellent cold bite. They are the easiest pad to bed on that I have tried so far. I have the edges beveled and they are very quiet with just a hint of light squeal with light brake application. Also, they are reasonably priced at around $650 for the set.
Also, I didn't use the silly stick on vibration spider dampers with any of the above pads since they will melt right away at the track.....
Pagid yellow 19s: Dusted like crazy, noisy as heck, sensitive to proper bed in, mediocre performance on the street, decent on the track but get mushy after they are worn down past 50%
Cool carbons: Average dust, fairly quiet, mediocre performance on the street, terrible performance on the track (after a few 30 minute sessions the brake pads material basically crumbled apart and started chunking badly at the edges. I would not recommend these for the track for anything but a novice driver. If you are a driver in any of the upper groups like orange or black these will not work.
Endless MX72: Extremely low dust, very quiet, very good performance on the street and good on the track for 25 min sessions. This is a fantastic all around pad but quite pricey. If I recall, they were around $750 for the set but that was for the 6 pots.. For a street car that does occasional DE this is my favorite pad. Endless makes some very good pads from entry level stuff up to $2K+ enduro pads.
Performance friction 08 front and 06 rear: Average dust (less than OEM), fairly quiet, fantastic performance on both the street and track. This is my favorite track pad by far but what surprised my is how good they work on the street with excellent cold bite. They are the easiest pad to bed on that I have tried so far. I have the edges beveled and they are very quiet with just a hint of light squeal with light brake application. Also, they are reasonably priced at around $650 for the set.
Also, I didn't use the silly stick on vibration spider dampers with any of the above pads since they will melt right away at the track.....
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06-26-2012 | 04:12 PM
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I have the following pads on my Rturbo with 6 pot front calipers and 4 pot rears using slotted floating 350mm rotors front and rear.
Pagid yellow 19s: Dusted like crazy, noisy as heck, sensitive to proper bed in, mediocre performance on the street, decent on the track but get mushy after they are worn down past 50%
Cool carbons: Average dust, fairly quiet, mediocre performance on the street, terrible performance on the track (after a few 30 minute sessions the brake pads material basically crumbled apart and started chunking badly at the edges. I would not recommend these for the track for anything but a novice driver. If you are a driver in any of the upper groups like orange or black these will not work.
Endless MX72: Extremely low dust, very quiet, very good performance on the street and good on the track for 25 min sessions. This is a fantastic all around pad but quite pricey. If I recall, they were around $750 for the set but that was for the 6 pots.. For a street car that does occasional DE this is my favorite pad. Endless makes some very good pads from entry level stuff up to $2K+ enduro pads.
Performance friction 08 front and 06 rear: Average dust (less than OEM), fairly quiet, fantastic performance on both the street and track. This is my favorite track pad by far but what surprised my is how good they work on the street with excellent cold bite. They are the easiest pad to bed on that I have tried so far. I have the edges beveled and they are very quiet with just a hint of light squeal with light brake application. Also, they are reasonably priced at around $650 for the set.
Also, I didn't use the silly stick on vibration spider dampers with any of the above pads since they will melt right away at the track.....
Pagid yellow 19s: Dusted like crazy, noisy as heck, sensitive to proper bed in, mediocre performance on the street, decent on the track but get mushy after they are worn down past 50%
Cool carbons: Average dust, fairly quiet, mediocre performance on the street, terrible performance on the track (after a few 30 minute sessions the brake pads material basically crumbled apart and started chunking badly at the edges. I would not recommend these for the track for anything but a novice driver. If you are a driver in any of the upper groups like orange or black these will not work.
Endless MX72: Extremely low dust, very quiet, very good performance on the street and good on the track for 25 min sessions. This is a fantastic all around pad but quite pricey. If I recall, they were around $750 for the set but that was for the 6 pots.. For a street car that does occasional DE this is my favorite pad. Endless makes some very good pads from entry level stuff up to $2K+ enduro pads.
Performance friction 08 front and 06 rear: Average dust (less than OEM), fairly quiet, fantastic performance on both the street and track. This is my favorite track pad by far but what surprised my is how good they work on the street with excellent cold bite. They are the easiest pad to bed on that I have tried so far. I have the edges beveled and they are very quiet with just a hint of light squeal with light brake application. Also, they are reasonably priced at around $650 for the set.
Also, I didn't use the silly stick on vibration spider dampers with any of the above pads since they will melt right away at the track.....
1) What cooling ducks are you using for the brake pads?
2) My personal experience on the coolcarbons. I ran them twice, I believe i was one of their very first users to have them on. They are great for the street and track driving at 7/10s. You cannot dive in at the 3 marker, going 140mph at laguna seca, like I can with the PFC01's BUT for the avg guy they are amazing.
I did 4 flying laps with them 10/10s, with stock cooling ducs and on hoosiers r6's. i was going to fast for the run group that my friend was in ( I was driving his car for that session) they called me in, and the rotors caught on fire.
If you are not posting best lap times these brakes hold very well. If you want aggressive street driving these are perfect as they are quiet, low dust compare to other performance pads.
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06-26-2012 | 04:41 PM
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1) What cooling ducks are you using for the brake pads?
2) My personal experience on the coolcarbons. I ran them twice, I believe i was one of their very first users to have them on. They are great for the street and track driving at 7/10s. You cannot dive in at the 3 marker, going 140mph at laguna seca, like I can with the PFC01's BUT for the avg guy they are amazing.
I did 4 flying laps with them 10/10s, with stock cooling ducs and on hoosiers r6's. i was going to fast for the run group that my friend was in ( I was driving his car for that session) they called me in, and the rotors caught on fire.
If you are not posting best lap times these brakes hold very well. If you want aggressive street driving these are perfect as they are quiet, low dust compare to other performance pads.
2) My personal experience on the coolcarbons. I ran them twice, I believe i was one of their very first users to have them on. They are great for the street and track driving at 7/10s. You cannot dive in at the 3 marker, going 140mph at laguna seca, like I can with the PFC01's BUT for the avg guy they are amazing.
I did 4 flying laps with them 10/10s, with stock cooling ducs and on hoosiers r6's. i was going to fast for the run group that my friend was in ( I was driving his car for that session) they called me in, and the rotors caught on fire.
If you are not posting best lap times these brakes hold very well. If you want aggressive street driving these are perfect as they are quiet, low dust compare to other performance pads.
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06-26-2012 | 04:46 PM
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Do you think the Endless pads are worth more than double the
cost of the Cool Carbons for STREET use ?
I run the large 996GT3 Cup cooling ducts in the front and GT2 cooling ducts in the rear. I am however running at a +5000' elevation track which is pretty hard on the brakes. The cool carbons lasted 4 sessions before disintegrating in my case. The Endless pads had the least dust of any on the street, virtually none and held up great at the track.
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06-26-2012 | 06:08 PM
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Essentially 150/front and 150/rear - 300 for all 4 corners:
http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/...pg6.htm#item23
http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/...pg6.htm#item23
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07-14-2012 | 11:52 PM
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I agree here on the cool carbons...they suck for the track. I smoked them at Endie Motorsports park in Wilcox, AZ. They now sound like a truck on the street. I have sanded them down and can't quiet them down. I don't know if sanding the rotors a little bit for the new pads will help (textar for the street) or not. They are squealing now too. I like the PFC 01 the best. I can nail them and they come back for more. (track only)
Tim
Tim