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Old 07-03-2012 | 10:41 AM
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^^^ Mark you are correct, but the extent of modification are what really limit the claim.

Someone can have heads ported with injectors and larger turbos and the Insurance rep would not know the difference. Then someone can have tinted windows and an exhaust and the Bells goes off. So it all depends on the Mods and who looks at it.
 
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Originally Posted by Aerodude
Would this be one good reason (compared to many bad ones) to buy through a dealer? At least you could have an extended warranty in place before you left the lot. Would there be any way to put a warranty in place with a private sale BEFORE you take possession of a car? Sounds like tha question might not have applied here given how heavily modded the car is?
I happened to find mine through a dealer but it was sold as-is as well. Of course, it wasn't modified, had all service records and I had a PPI done. So, I felt fairly secure I would be fine.
 
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Old 07-03-2012 | 11:21 AM
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sorry to hear..

I thought by law you can cancel the deal within 3 days even it is a private seller if his statement turned out to be false? I don't know. Maybe it only applies in ca?
 
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Old 07-03-2012 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by PALETTE
^^^ Mark you are correct, but the extent of modification are what really limit the claim.

Someone can have heads ported with injectors and larger turbos and the Insurance rep would not know the difference. Then someone can have tinted windows and an exhaust and the Bells goes off. So it all depends on the Mods and who looks at it.
it really just depends if they "look into" you or not. guys that have heads will usually have exhaust and visible mods. i came back to MB dealer who knew about all of my mods but was willing to do the work until warranty said something I was expecting a call "not this time buddy", but it never happenned. got lucky. my car was fairly heavily modded for an MB.

those inspectors are not the dummies they used to be because they normally don't get sent out but when they do the companies really want them to be somewhat knowledgeable.

case in point here would have been a tough sell to the warranty company. thats why i keep posting for big power guys to really keep an eye out on their fuel systems and dont try to save money there and do it right.
 
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Originally Posted by MrWhite
Sucks big time.

The actual component failure can happen and is very hard to foresee. But it's very odd that the engine mgmt SW didn't handle the lean condition when fuel pressure dropped, it should shut down, or kill boost, change timing, close throttle, any or all right away and it goes in an instant. If these safety features in the ECU were disabled, that is something that the owner should have known, and told you about. That way you could have made the call if you wanted to drive it already and risk driving without those safety features (I would never), or first get a SW flash you know anything about before going for a drive.
This. The software being run may not be safe. But buyer purchased a highly modded car with this software on it, he had the opportunity to discover this fact....

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I thought by law you can cancel the deal within 3 days even it is a private seller if his statement turned out to be false? I don't know. Maybe it only applies in ca?
What are you talking about? No such law in California.
 
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Originally Posted by ard
This. The software being run may not be safe. But buyer purchased a highly modded car with this software on it, he had the opportunity to discover this fact....



What are you talking about? No such law in California.
You are right. There is no such law. I wish there was. Feel sorry for him.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_you_re...ter_three_days
 
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I too feel sorry for the OP.

When I bought my '02 X50, it was a private party sale but the car was immaculate and still CPO.

Even so, it blew a coolant hose (not the glued-in hardpipes) literally on my drive home. Had to be flatbedded to my dealer (free, Porsche roadside assistance ) and repaired (free, CPO covered ).

Sometimes, s**t happens. You pays yer money, and you takes yer chances...

Tough spot for the OP, though; you'd have to be pretty heartless to not feel bad for the situation he finds himself in.
 
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Originally Posted by prodigymb
warranty doesnt cover modified automobiles. period.
They do. You have the burden of proof to prove your modifications did not cause or contribute to the failure.
 
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They do. You have the burden of proof to prove your modifications did not cause or contribute to the failure.
Good luck with that one
 
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Originally Posted by Heist
They do. You have the burden of proof to prove your modifications did not cause or contribute to the failure.

Not Correct ,Under the provisions of the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975, an automotive dealership/carmaker cannot void your warranty because your vehicle has been modified with aftermarket parts. They (the manufacturers) have to prove that the failure was the direct result of the installed aftermarket part. Unfortunately, too many folks have gone to a dealer to have warranty service performed on their modified vehicle only to have the dealer refuse to cover the defective items. The dealer usually states, that because of the aftermarket parts installed, the warranty is void (without even attempting to determine whether or not the aftermarket part caused the problem).
 
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To the OP: I'm very sorry to hear that this happened to you. It really sucks.
 
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From the FTC: "Private sales usually are not covered by the "implied warranties" of state law. That means a private sale probably will be on an "as is" basis, unless your purchase agreement with the seller specifically states otherwise. If you have a written contract, the seller must live up to the promises stated in the contract. The car also may be covered by a manufacturer's warranty or a separately purchased service contract. However, warranties and service contracts may not be transferable, and other limits or costs may apply. Before you buy the car, ask to review its warranty or service contract. Many states do not require individuals to ensure that their vehicles will pass state inspection or carry a minimum warranty before they offer them for sale. Ask your state Attorney General's office or local consumer protection agency about the requirements in your state."

Sorry about your situation.
 
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Is there a small part of you that wanted a stroker motor car? Now is your chance!

Focus on the positive parts of this situation and get to a place where you can be satisfied with your ownership experience.

It doesn't sound like the seller was trying to screw you and this stuff happens. I would invest in a built motor - In the 996 market you can capture some of those dollars when you're selling the car; and while you own it - you have the chance to put down big numbers.

My feeling is nearly everyone with built / stroked motors in cars like this, blew their stock motors up somehow. Turn that lemon into lemonade !
 
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Feel bad for both the buyer and the seller! Crappy situation all around!
 
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OP, Did you find out what the damage is yet?
 


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