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:: ECS Tuning :: Forge Intercooler Upgrade Kit Equals Bigger HP








Leave it Forge Motorsport to accept the challenge and improve on an already brilliant design. Reporting gains of up to 40 HP due to a significant drop in intake temperature, it's safe to say they succeeded. Forge started by improving airflow through the intercoolers with the use of enlarged 60mm silicone hoses and continued with a redesign of the intercooler end tanks. Then with the charge air sorted, they looked at the cooling air that passes over the intercooler. Their testing showed that the original OEM ducting performed brilliantly. Forge created a true direct replacement kit by designing the intercoolers to install perfectly with all the OEM mounts.


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are these coolers really this good ?

what is the best price you can do shipped to australia ?

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These kits are really that good !! Independent testing has proven that cooler charged air from the 60mm silicone pipes along with the redesigned intercooler end tanks proved to make a world of difference, giving it an extra 40 HP.

We use a competitive fixed rate on all of our shipping, so there is no way to change the cost for individual customers.
 
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and the best price you can do on the kit ?
 
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definitely an improvement over stock.

have you guys got an datalog data showing gains over stockers, etc. or showing AIT's for both yours and stock?
 
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ECS,

I have an 2005 X50 car with a UMW 1.1 bar tune an Milltek exhaust. I am preparing to order late model 997 Intercoolers and saw this post. How would your intercoolers compare to late model 997 units? The 997 units are a deal, Walters Porsche gave me a PCA price of $620 each, that is $1,240 vs your $2,450. What advantages does your intercooler present for the extra $1,200?


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Nice boat Don that eliminator must really move with those twin 1200hp motors
 
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Nice boat Don that eliminator must really move with those twin 1200hp motors
She will hold her own.... Has seen a best of 162 MPH and she will run in the high 150's on a normal basis.
 
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ECS,

I have an 2005 X50 car with a UMW 1.1 bar tune an Milltek exhaust. I am preparing to order late model 997 Intercoolers and saw this post. How would your intercoolers compare to late model 997 units? The 997 units are a deal, Walters Porsche gave me a PCA price of $620 each, that is $1,240 vs your $2,450. What advantages does your intercooler present for the extra $1,200?


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Off-topic, but the "PCA price" Walters Porsche gave you isn't as good as the everyday low price other dealerships may offer.

For example, 6SO forum sponsor Sonnen Porsche offers the GT2RS ICs (the same ones you're talking about) for under $1,000 for the pair:

http://sonnenporscheoemparts.com/par...catalogid=7378

Back on topic, as I understand it, the main advantage the 3-3.5" aftermarket ICs (like these ones) can offer is greater flow, and a more robust design (i.e. metal end-tanks welded to the IC cores). They may or may not be as thermally efficient as the GT2RS coolers, which are exceptionally good in that area.

Don't forget, too - this is a kit with the pair of ICs and a reputable, quality silicone boost hose kit. So, apples to apples, you're paying ~$2,000 for the ICs, vs ~$1,000 for what would be a good deal on the GT2RS ICs.
 
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These units are really nicely built and also include the hose. A forum member is running them on a 800whp+ car, prodigymb. Think he even has a dyno and pics of install.
 
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Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM
Off-topic, but the "PCA price" Walters Porsche gave you isn't as good as the everyday low price other dealerships may offer.

For example, 6SO forum sponsor Sonnen Porsche offers the GT2RS ICs (the same ones you're talking about) for under $1,000 for the pair:

http://sonnenporscheoemparts.com/par...catalogid=7378

Back on topic, as I understand it, the main advantage the 3-3.5" aftermarket ICs (like these ones) can offer is greater flow, and a more robust design (i.e. metal end-tanks welded to the IC cores). They may or may not be as thermally efficient as the GT2RS coolers, which are exceptionally good in that area.

Don't forget, too - this is a kit with the pair of ICs and a reputable, quality silicone boost hose kit. So, apples to apples, you're paying ~$2,000 for the ICs, vs ~$1,000 for what would be a good deal on the GT2RS ICs.
Wow, great heads up on Sonnen, thanks!!!!

So my question remains however somewhat restated, what does the $1k get me 997 intercooler vs Forge? Kevin at UMW claims that the switch to the 997 intercooler is probably also worth approx 30-40 HP in real world application.
 
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Hi Don,

162 MPH F##k Me that's insane.

I used to Race Boats when I was a kid but max would of only of been 100 maybe 110 if I was having a good day. Dont think we have any waterways down here in Australia that would let you get to that insane speed.

Nothing like driving a a quick boat its an absolute Rush, nothing compares.

Post some pics if you have them.

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Forge's Intercooler Kit is a bar and plate construction design. The bar and plate style intercooler offers greater heat rejection than the stock tube and fin design, and is less likely to be damaged by road debris because of it's heavy duty construction. With that being said, Intercooler efficiency is not so much about design as it is about the flow and placement. Porsche did an excellent job of placing the 996 Turbo intercoolers from the factory. Combine this great placement with the larger, more efficient Forge boost hoses and intercoolers, and you achieve your car's maximum air flow efficiency, lower intake temperatures, and in turn more useable power.
 
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have you guys got an datalog data showing gains over stockers, etc. or showing AIT's for both yours and stock?
here
 
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@Prche951 The independent data you're looking for is from Regal Autosport. For more information about the power gains CLICK HERE.
 

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